Comments Of The Day: The Loren Feldman Interview

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From FormerGawkerEmployee, Ironic Slanket, and What Julia REALLY Thinks:

FormerGawkerEmployee Says:
June 16, 2009 at 8:05 am | Reply edit

That was really lame and disappointing and disingenuous.

He didn’t ask tough questions because in real life she’s just a “sad and pathetic girl?” Was she acting sad and pathetic during this interview? No, she was braying and kissing ass and lying and self-aggrandizing as always. And all he pressed her on is why don’t you tell your critics to fuck off?

Carry on, RBNS. You and the other reblogging sites are the only ones with any nuts. Get Alana Joy to sit down and interview her — then you’ll see someone with some balls ask the questions you wanted asked.

And why did Loren et al come here soliciting questions and then not ask any of them? If I’m RBNS right now, I’m feeling used and pissed.

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ironic slanket Says:
June 16, 2009 at 8:50 am | Reply edit

Well, not everybody can do what Jon Stewart did on Crossfire, I guess, but I still think ‘owning’ should go both ways.
Called someone a monster in a video posted on your ‘media’ site? Own it. Produced the “FUCK CAMPING!” puppet show? Own it.
Solicit questions for a filmed chat in the park? Pick the factual ones and ask them and if Paul Carr gets in your way, give him a bottle of liquor to pose for a picture with. Also, who’s Paul Carr anyway?
What was the point of this little excercise? Why should people watch this (I didn’t and don’t intend to)? What informational, entertainment or whatever value does it have that justifies posting it? Why not simply do what many good journalists do with irrelevant material and chuck it?
It is one thing to be civil and not destroy someone in front of a camera, but that doesn’t mean you can’t be factual and critical in any way.
Well, at the end of the day, none of this really matters, least of all Julia Allison Baugher.

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What Julia REALLY thinks Says:
June 16, 2009 at 9:03 am | Reply editHere’s an interesting question – why the FUCK would any self-respecting journalist wait around for an hour and a half for a late interviewee, who wasn’t, say, a famous movie star or the President of the United States?

I would have left after thirty minutes and told Julia to screw herself and her slanket for her rude behavior. Then I would have written a sentence or two about how she was super late to the meeting, and I had better things to do with my time.

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  2. well this shit show exists because these pussies will wait around and hour and half for a total nobody because 2 of them are so nerdy/desperate for coolness and relevance // loren i am not sure why. jon stewart on the otherhand? probs not going to have his time wasted. this is what separates the bottom feeders from the real players.

    sorry. but it has to be said. that video is a giant waste of time and is a total nothingness of a kind.

    • As long as people keep waiting for her, she will believe she is worth waiting for. Why the fuck Loren waited I have no idea. I guess he doesn’t have quite the brass balls he tries to pretend he does or he would have packed his shit and gone home after a half hour.

      We need to stop blaming Julia, and start blaming the legion of enablers that encourage her in being what she is.

      • Guess loren is not the tough guy that he proports to be.

        Don’t use this as a platform for your work Loren and then puss out!

    • Exactly

      They are losers! I mean, think about it…

      I said it earlier, but they should thank Julia for giving them something to do yesterday!

  3. I truly would love to see Alana Joy interviewing her and see if she could have as much ball with her in person as she does while she’s trashing her online (and that’s not meant as a jab at Ms. Joy. Alana, I think you’re smart, opinionated, and beautiful but). I’d love to see if any of you could do that. Trashing someone to their face is much harder than hiding behind a screen name, which is what almost everyone here does. If anyone here thinks they could do it, I say do it. She posts her whereabouts regularly, go find her! See if her dates with HarHar are real!

    • But, see, Julia wouldn’t agree to do an interview with her. SHe knows who to talk to…

      Didn’t she call Ms. Joy “worrisome”?

      hahaha

      • Why would AJ ask Julia for an interview? Despite what you and your idol seem to think, not everyone in the world is wishing on their pink panties for a chance to talk with Julia Allison. 99% of the world doesn’t know or care who she is. Why would AJ waste her time?

    • But most of the questions weren’t necessarily “trashing” Julia. Aside from some really funny remarks (such as asking Julia how she hides her penis, what she’s been feasting on lately), a LOT of them were asking about the inconsistencies.

      If Loren had asked them, Julia would have had the opportunity to “clear them up.” Now, granted, given Julia’s track record, the responses would likely have been BS – but the point would have been made. It would have been uncomfortable, yes … but I don’t quite get the whole “oh, let’s interview, you have star quality, let’s be friends, yay.com!” vibe from the interview, particularly when you go on a website the morning before, and solicit questions from an audience that loathes her.

  4. Ah, Loren didn’t really want any questions from commenters here. He was just being all Web 2.0, ginning up interest and hits for his interview. It was pretty much Internet PR 101. Also pretty much what Julia Allison would do.

    • They didn’t discuss anything. Three boys sat and drooled on princess cocktease. “Women on the internet get a lot of shit”??? Wtf. No, useless asshelmets get a lot of shit. On the internet. And in real life.

      Omg. I just can’t watch this ego porn anymore.

    • He’s like that 40 year old who drives around the high school in his camaro wearing a baseball cap, blasting All American Rejects or whatever, offering a ride to the group of cheerleaders. Or that 35 year old that still shows up at college parties.

  7. What a farce! Waiting around an hour and a half for a narcissistic, talentless douchebag, only to engage in a circle jerk. Having watched Julia Allison Baugher’s sociopathic tendencies in public, I always marvel that anyone with a two-digit I.Q. can fall for her b.s. Way to go, Loren! If you fail this miserably with a nobody like Jackles, I don’t imagine that MSNBC will be calling anytime soon.

  8. Ah, there’s no point to bash these sychophants…they need each other; they feed off each other’s little dramas and lies and gossip…

    It’s entertaining and they’re the joke. Maybe they don’t see it that way, but they don’t know us.

  9. The complete lack of gravitas on behalf of all three boys (yes, they are boys) is astonishing. Julia does indeed have star power — the power to extinguish what little star potential exists in those around her.

    Carpool’s inability to realize he comes off no different than the Greek Salad Tosser bedazzles as well.

  10. Called it before it even happened. Loren does this with everyone. Talks big shit about someone online from the comfort of his home and then when he gets to them in person he’s loud but hardly ever as obnoxious. Julia isn’t the first and won’t be the last of Loren’s letdowns.

    Not that this is a bad thing. It just is what it is.

  11. Im right here and unlike Julia I could give two fucks about what this site wants. I dont give two fucking cents on anyones opinion of me. Not a fucking bit. Everyone’s a big fucking talker here. All talk in fact. Except for the occasional photojob hack. So to answer your questions why I didnt vivisect Julia, because I didn’t want to, period. If some bullshit fucking website has a problem with it, I so dont give a shit. Does that answer all your fucking questions?

    • …none of your comments change the fact that you are a bad journalist and have no courage.

      Good luck with that.

    • Oh please, you are a ball-less wonder. You think you are so tough but you succumb to Julia’s ass-kissing just like all of the people you used to mock.

      Anyone who pays for anything on your pathetic, ignorable site is a tool. RBNS, can we ignore this fool from now on?

      • Agreed, can RBNS stop giving this man pageviews? He tried to use RBNS as a marketing tool to get some PVs, and then when people realize he was just using us he gets defensive and insults us. I say fuck him.

        Please please please stop giving him PVs and attention.

      • Pretty much this entire thing was and has been a ploy from Loren to get pageviews and hits to his site. He made some silly Julia puppet videos but wanted you to pay $50 to his site to watch it. I dislike Julia like the rest of us, but I am not going to pay some random dude jerking off with a puppet of her. Likewise you can see on his forum that he opened a thread yesterday about meeting Julia. His forum is a gost town. Nice try Loren but some of see right through you. You’re just trying to make a buck off of Julia.

      • Yeah, he started a new forum/thread called “Juliagate” this morning at 1130am, presumably about the piddly uproar here on RBNS. It, too, is paid subscriber only.

        Way to not give a fuck what the fuck us fucking websites fuckin say Loren.

    • Here’s the thing about us being anonymous talkers: we’re not, really. At least, some of us aren’t. There are plenty of RBNS people who reside in NYC, work in new media or within its sphere, and take you (and your buddy Julia) for complete and total tools.

      Seriously, you’re naive as is Julia if you think the people, both commentors are creators, involved in this site aren’t in some way intimately connected to the same network.

      Watch out, Loren, your uppance is coming. Julia’s, really, has already happened. She used to be asked to interviews by major media networks; now she’s asked to interviews by the likes of you.

      • Exactly, in fact I (like my username suggests) DO in fact work at GM and I know a lot of other employees and my friends (who are “friends” with ol’ donkey-face Jules) come on here and read the site, if not make comments.

        No one should be under the impression that people like Julia in the media world. For small dicks like Loren she might be a big media “get” but everyone else is tired of her and hates to be around her. Seriously, she is detested and she knows it.

        If I ever got the chance to talk to Julia again, I would tell her all of the shit I think about her to her face. I know a lot of people that have done it. This isn’t just internet shit-talk.

    • BAHAHAHAHA!

      Julia used you like she uses everyone else. Looks like the tough little bulldog got turned into a lamb just because of Julia’s put on “sweetness.” Julia has a real gift for making people think that she likes them. However, I’d love to hear what you have to say in a month when she starts to ignore your emails and IMs and won’t talk to you at parties because she is busy ass-kissing to some ACTUAL media big wig.

      You’re just another mark and you got played.

      P.S. 1938 Media is a fucking joke.

    • Sure, Loren. Got it. You don’t care what anyone here thinks. But why then solicit questions for your circle jerk? Even Al Roeker exhibits more balls when interviewing talent free, I.Q. challenged celebs.

  14. Loren: I just e-mailed you this question, but I’ll ask you here.

    Fair enough. We get it if you couldn’t give two shits about what anyone here thinks of you.

    But we wouldn’t have even known about this interview if you hadn’t come on here yesterday and told us about it, and you asked the commenters here for suggestions for questions. You even asked us to put up a separate post about what you should ask.

    I think that is why people are disappointed and pissed off. You can understand that, right? Why involve them and then piss all over them, both in the interview and here today?

  15. Loren, it’s just that we wanted to REALLY believe you were as big as the balls you act like you have.
    Seriously, had you asked her honest questions instead of blowing fluff up her ass, the reaction would have been different.
    Come on Loren, YOU of ALL people had to know this was completely lame and did not live up to what your persona is. Right??
    Re-do Loren, re-do.
    Genuinely, it was surprising to and quite frankly, embarrassing to watch YOU of all people cave!
    It’s ok if you don’t give a fuck what anyone thinks here.
    Just recognize what you did was in direct contrast to everything you’ve posted.
    It’s disappointing.
    And you can’t be mad at people being disappointed.
    Learn from it.

  16. I’ve never commented before, and I won’t bore you with the tale of how I came to follow the drama of NS and RBNS.

    But I have two things to say about the Loren Feldman interview, and Loren’s response:

    1. “Everyone’s a big fucking talker here. All talk in fact.” Loren said this as if it was a criticism, but I’m unclear as to what else NS, or RBNS, or 1938, *is* except for talk. The issue is what kind of talk it is. People’s main problem with JA, as I see it, is that people can’t *trust* her talk. (See, for example, the long list of lies/misrepresentations/distortions on the interview questions post.) And now people don’t know if they can trust Loren’s talk. Loren honestly may not care about that, but (again, it seems to me) that credibility is something (perhaps the only thing) one can amass of value in Web 2.0 land. Unless it’s all just smoke and mirrors, all “presentation?”

    I am genuinely curious about Loren, or JA’s, take on this point, though I think Loren’s would be more interesting.

    2. One thing Loren said in the interview that I agreed with is that his main complaint about JA is his frustration with her. Before she lost all credibility in my eyes (for the list of misrepresentations, etc.), this was my main complaint about her as well. I liked the concept of NS (even if I didn’t like the particular participants), and I admired JA’s chutzpah. As annoying as she is, I’ll take braying self-promotion over MA’s sweetly-smiling insipidness any day. But, as so many have pointed out, NS never delivered what it promised. And TMI (there was never a more inappropriately-named show in the history of media) is even worse. It’s TMI MEEKLY. So I share Loren’s frustration, in that here was this sort of neat concept, backed by ample capital and associated with some talented people… and there’s nothing to show for it, except a clusterfuck of a website and a show that is unwatchable.

    Wow, I feel better for having written that. Snark on, fine RBNS-ers.

  17. After watching this interview, it seems to me that Loren, in his fashion, was trying to encourage JABa to be authentic. (I.e., indirectly criticizing her attempts to manipulate the truth rather than just own it.) In other words, enough with the fluffy bullshit, Julia, get fucking real.
    So, for example, if a website bothers her (any website, including RBNS), she should just stand up with an solid “eff you” and carry on. Sure he used RBNS as an example, but dissing RBNS was not the point. That seems clear to me.
    Loren says he sees star quality, but squandered.
    Who doesn’t agree with that? Julia Allison Baugher has clawed her way into all kinds of circles of influence, and again, instead of owning it, flaunting it, and making something powerful out of it, she posts kissy pictures of herself in borrowed gowns and thinks that means she’s accomplished something.
    She burns the bridges she might (legitimately or not) have had an opportunity to build. She has used her looks and stunts as leverage, but by relying way too much on such superficialities (and trying to preserve/enchance them), she now looks totally busted and desperate.
    Sure, those other two guys were typical fan boys, too bad for them, they’ve established themselves as the loser lightweights they are.
    Loren took a moderate line, sure, but (JABa’s rude lateness aside … and I am surprised he didn’t say screw this) they did both agree to meet. So, why not then be civil? It helps conversation along immensely.
    And, no surprise, Julia comes across in this interview as a deceptive manipulative fake. I suppose it’s inevitable, she really appears to have become nothing more than a calculated “persona” through and through.
    It seems that regardless of who interviews her and what questions she is or is not asked, the final result is “fake”. Check any interview in print or video. Fake, fake, fake and fake. Loren captured that. Didn’t matter what he said at all.

  18. Loren’s only advice to her was to tell the reblogging site(s) to “fuck off”. Really? How is that supposed to help her in any way? Yet, she sat there bobbing her head in agreement and smoothing her hair pelts over her shoulders. Loren was beyond lame for his participation in that shit show.

    I used to be a huge fan of Loren’s after the video parody of Jakob and Julia, but I’ll never click through to his site again. Gawker largely ignores him and this is really the only place I saw him getting any traction. Guess that’s over!

    I would tell Julia exactly what I think of her to her face if I still lived in NYC.

    Also, I am no fan of mary, but Julia is being a cunt about her. Rambin is an idiot, but Julia just shows how loathsome, soulless and horrible she truly is in her comments about Mary.

    Watch you back, Jordan*.

    Lastly, if I never have to see Paul Carr on video again I will be a happy gal. Ick.

    * My husband (who only follows this trainwreck via my summarized updates) came up with a brilliant plot twist for this psychodramedy: What if Julia’s new pal is a Scientologist? Wouldn’t that be awesome?

  19. My favorite part of the interview is when Julia says something to the effect of, “People talk about content and are mad that I’m sleeping at night instead of updating my blog. Okay, sorry, I’d rather sleep than update my blog.” I like how it’s “just a blog” when people are attacking her, but a BUSINESS when she needs cash and connections.

    You can’t have it both ways, Julia. Professional blogger entails just that: being a professional. Don’t pretend to be some nice girl from New York who just wants to write about what she had for lunch.

    When you run a shitty business, whether its a blog-business or a restaurant, you’re going to get feedback.

    • Sleeping at night? She continually makes obnoxious ‘Where did the time go it’s already 5am, I guess I’ve been so busy busy!’ type posts and then the content that should be the result of these all nighters (still waiting on that Davos report by the way) fails to turn up.

  20. And may I just reiterate how fucking naive it is of Julia and Loren to think that we’re just nobodies. Think of some opportunities that never came to pass, Jules and Loren: you might be able to attribute that to the influence of commentors or creators here — either directly or indirectly.

    We may be anonymous here, but we do have faces, resumes and influence in the real world.

    Julia, on second thought — I do want you to move back to Chicago.

    • Fuck, don’t send her back here!!! Although, meh. Wouldn’t matter much. Chicago is over. Yeah. Come to think of it, this would be a great place for her. She wouldn’t come anywhere near the “barrio” where I live (description JA’s, not mine).

    • Thank you. I’ve been commenting a bit on how we’re on the ‘outside’ of their world (although, some have expressed they are not…cool!). However, I’d like to say that I am and I am happily on the outside of what seems to be their boring, non-innovative world of ass-kissing nothingness (talking about their particular ‘contributions’ to whatever it is they do).

      In any case, I am in the midst of writing my PhD thesis — 4 chapters to go. I’m sure some can imagine how this site and Miss Baugher, herself, provide such a wonderful distraction from the seriousness (and pain) that is my current life. As well as the seriousness that is the lives of others here too…

      We’re not nobodies, you nobodies! ONce this thesis is bound and shelved and cited and whatever else I dream of doing with it, Miss Baugher won’t be relevant to me. Peace out!

      • Ironic Slanket — Thanks…there is a light at the end of the tunnel, but it’s a bit of a ways off! What a lonely journey…

        Thank god for cigarettes, wine, my little yorkie extraordinaire and RBNS….(and some other things too, I guess…)!

      • Well, here it’s all about first year pains, self doubt and existential crises. Therefore, each completing person gives me hope that there is indeed a way to get through this eventually. Also, looking at Julia serves as a good reminder that this, although painful and living in controlled poverty, is definitely better than THAT.

      • Exactly…that’s why I think I’m so captivated…her blog posts are little reminders of how proud I am of what I’m doing! I’m so happy to not be a part of that world…of all the things she has to worry about (empty!)…and how she’ll really have nothing to fall back on / contribute.

        First year, Ironic Slanket? Oh, enjoy it…I didn’t know what I was doing at all…just wrote some small essays on topics related to my study…reconfigured aims and objectives…but I didn’t read as much as I should have. I do recommend filling your time with the literature…but maybe that’s just me, or you already are!

        Fuck Camping — yes, piled higher every moment: “Oh shit!?! I have to cover that too!??! Ugh…” is the usual fear / commentary from me!

  21. Loren — I wasn’t necessarily put off by you/the interview until you came on here and cursed everyone out. Was that necessary? At least acknowledge that you used RBNS to garner interest in the interview, without using anyone’s [very good] questions. Many of them weren’t mean or meant to vivisect Julia in any way, we’re all just genuinely curious about the way she lies and manipulates and bullshits her way through life. Hell, that’s why most of us still pay attention to this train wreck.

    I’m just surprised at the immaturity of your response to the people here. It’s almost as though you’re – gasp – as bad as Julia.

  23. And yet I didn’t get an answer to my question about the 0.5 of the dating world. BWAHAHAHAHA…to this JA farce and those who have foolishly and willingly engaged it so directly (Loren, etc.). You deserve to be ridiculed.

  24. Is the video available anywhere other than youtube? I’m curious to see what all the comments are about.

  25. Didn’t Loren once call this website the “most vibrant community on the Internet” or something like that? I stopped following him when he had that dinner with JABA and Calcanis. Then started reading 1938 again when he got on here and said she was a weirdo and it wasn’t that big a deal. I guess the true answer is he feels sorry for her and actually kind of likes her. Oh well. Another one bites the dust.

  26. Loren’s never been about the pageviews. And if you look at the view counts you’ll see that RBNS isn’t exactly times fucking square for traffic. The video wasn’t what we were hoping for, but the british racing green handjob contingent is at least partly to blame for the overall tone of the meetup. Not to mention dopey’s tardiness. Let’s summarize it as amateur hour on the web as usual and move on.

    • no but loren has all been about making you pay for content as of late. he completely tried to manipulate content on his site to see if anyone would pay his premium fees to see him with a handpuppet of julia.

    • Main point: if Loren hadn’t built this all up like crazy, it wouldn’t be an issue.

      He took a page out of Julia’s Davos/Inauguration/CES/etc. playbook and under-delivered.

  27. Like I said here before the video was even posted, it was not not what we hoped for. She was an hour late and demanded that Carr be involved. HE SET this up to begin with. We agreed on a format, but Julia wanted Paul to sit in. I am friends with Paul and I’m not about to make a scene at a restaurant with my wife over the parameters of talking to Julia. As you can see immediately in the video this wasn’t how I do things normally.

    As for my tone, yeah I’m pissed at you guys a bit. I was on Julia PUBLICLY WITH MY NAME before this site ever existed. Additionally; I am not a journalist like most of you here. I am an entertainer and never claimed to be anything more. Are you really mad because I solicited some fun from you guys and the jokes didn’t make the act. C’mon. Don’t go getting all strange on me now.

    • Knock off the crap boasting about using your real name. You use your real name because, in some small way you are branding yourself. Entertainer? Journalist? New media perosnality? Whatever. You’re trying to make it pay.

      We, mostly professionals, are, to use your analogy, an audience. We don’t have to identify ourselves before we stand up and boo. We just boo. You wanted teh stage? You got it.

      You’re like so many other internet “pioneers” – you love the new rules that allow anyone with bandwith and a camera to challenge the old establishment. But hate the new rule that allows all that instant real-time feedback. The fact that some of that feedback is faster, meaner and reaches more people than the original performance realluy burns you guys.

      Too bad.

      Hey Loren? Buddy? Pioneer?
      You suck at what you do.

      • “Entertainer? Journalist? New media perosnality? Whatever. You’re trying to make it pay.”

        Bingo. Of course, everyone on the internet is trying to make it pay.

      • Bingo you are an audience. And you have every right to hate me and the videos, just don’t get your panties in a bunch if I have a hard time caring that you do. Faster, meaner, are you kidding me? Who even takes this nonsense seriously?

      • Sorry Loren, but when you fill your twitter with shit like

        “so awesome Julia’s hate site feels disappointed and let down by me. seriously .about 4 hours ago from TweetDeck ”

        “@tmofee I was going to interview her, and she asked that Carr sit in. Yeah they are all in a tizzy over there. Juliagate to them.about 2 hours ago from TweetDeck in reply to tmofee”

        then it’s pretty apparent that YOU care. Or you are seriously trying to wring every ounce of publicity and traffic out of this you think you can.

      • Of course he cares. He sacrificed his credibility in front of a bunch of British nancies. It’s like the American Revolution never even happened. Loren has brought shame to America and he knows it.

    • Loren, you lost me when you actually waited 1 1/2 hours for the braying jackass. 90 fucking minutes?! I wouldn’t sit around dawdling my thumbs for Michelle Obama for that length of time. And by waiting for the pink trainwreck, you validated her sociopathic sense of entitlement. Thanks!

      • That’s what I’m saying. If people would stop enabling her she might wise the fuck up. All people do by enforcing her entitlement is make it seem justifiable to her – like, well they wait for me, obviously I’m important!

      • I think the same thing, and then I am like, wait a minute, aren’t WE sort of enabling her by participating in this snark site? I sort of get the feeling she gets a perverse sense of pleasure reading here, like in her twisted mind that all this attention is a good thing – it means people still care! I watched that video and she brought up things discussed here – the black tights, the vacation mystery, etc – a little TOO much, with a little TOO much pleasure. I think Julia Baugher enjoys being hated and actually goes out of her way to play up her victim status and rile up haters. Not that what a few dozen snarkers say here really matters in the grand scheme of things, but in her world and in her little mind (and in the world of Web 2.0 idiots like Loren) it’s HUGE.

    • Loren, seeing as I have a professional license, I cannot post my real name here. If I could, and not be in some bullshit ethical breach as deemed by a bullshit state licensing board, I WOULD.

      I don’t have the luxury to use my name. I wish that I did. I think that’s true of many of us.

  28. There is a special level of Hell reserved for the likes of Paul Carr, Milo Yiannopoulos, and Loren Feldman. They are more damned than even Julia is since they enable her. Here is a woman that lies, cheats, steals, and has broken several laws in her quest for fame, a woman that nobody should want to emulate, and what do they do? They wait around for 1.5 hours before Her Royal Highness of the Pink Cupcake shows. Loren probably wouldn’t even wait that long for Michelle! Paul Carr, Milo Yiannopoulos, and Loren Feldman are truly Julia Allison’s asshats-in-waiting.

  29. What is the deal with Paul Carr?

    “@1938media I would give half a fuck about them if they has the balls to use their real names. Fucking loons.”

    Why is he always so concerned with the use of “real names” on comment sites? We elect a president using an Australian (i.e. secret) ballot; yet, we cannot diss a minor webtard from the comfort of anonymity. Why? Why does Paul Carr place so much faith in “real names” and so little in the truth?

    • They want it both ways: easy access to be a “publisher” or entertainer, but also imposed rules about behavior of their audience.

      And note to carr and and JA and feldman: any entertainer who gets into a argument from their “stage” with the hecklers loses. They always lose. They end up looking ridiculous.
      Always.

      • I never thought of it that way, but now I see their desires as being very anti-democratic. That is, under the mask of civility, they seek to divide the demos (i.e. people viewed as a political unit) by identifying and then belittling or cajoling the most critical voices. Case in point: Milo Yiannopoulos. All I can say is long live RBNS!

    • Hi, asshampers. It’s me partypants. Loren, you’re now just another fansock. Milo, you’re a vagina sporting poncybritches. Mr. Carr, you are about as relevant as a Patty Duke Show reference. Julia, I hope you fall in front of a subway train so that all your succubi can finally be freed of your walking-roofie-in-a-waterbra spell.

      There you are! There’s my name since you’re all too lazy to click my shit and look at my name on my blog!

      Fuck you boys! Fuck you fans of Jaba! And Jabadaba too! Happy now?

    • Hey Paul Carr – I’ll start using my real name when Julia Baugher goes back to using her real name.

    • I want to say this again because I don’t think that I’m the only one—-

      I WOULD LOSE MY PROFESSIONAL LICENSE IF I POSTED HERE UNDER MY REAL NAME. I CURRENTLY HOLD TWO PROFESSIONAL LICENSES, IN FACT. OTHERWISE, I’D HAVE NO PROBLEM USING MY NAME.

      Paul Carr is a PRICK.

  30. Loren — I’m still with you. I disagree about Julia having “star quality” (I find her unwatchable, and her voice& laugh are the worst) but I thought you saying that nice stuff was so you could get to the meat of the discussion. Unfortunately, all she wants to hear is the nice stuff. She just seems incapable of being authentic. And the times that she is honest seem as much of a manipulative play as the other times, so what’s the point. Apparently she can charm in person, but it does not translate on camera — and yes, I am one of the nameless here who works in the biz. You tried, it was weird and public and Paul Carr and Milo seem like tools and oh well.
    Best wishes to you and your lovely wife.

  31. I may be overreaching here, but it’s something I’ve noticed a lot with the new media crowd: this sentiment of “if you don’t like it, don’t go to my website, HATERS” whenever criticized.

    Fine, that’s all well and good – but when income and revenue are, in some way whether it be direct or indirect – connected with pageviews and people coming to your site, it seems like a fairly poor business move to say “oh, don’t come here if you don’t like it”, instead of actually listening to the critiques to determine, if perhaps, there’s a way to improve your product.

    Can you imagine what media companies would still be standing if low rated television programs remained on the air, after television critics lambasted them? Companies either revamp or pull failing products, not put fingers in their ears and say “oh, la la la la, I’M NOT LISTENING TO YOU BECAUSE YOU DON’T LIKE ME.” Good products thrive on improvement, which, in turn, stems from listening to negative feedback and determining what is actionable.

    It’s food for thought – but Loren’s comments here, Julia’s repeated attitude towards anyone who doesn’t worship the ground she walks on, and Mary’s increasingly “screw you, go home” attitude towards opposing viewpoints made me realize this perhaps common thread.

    • Yes.
      it’s one of those sorta new web 2.0 attitudes – that website businesses are somehow “past” the pageview pardigm. That a “successful” website biz doesn’t have to chase eyeballs. I guess, they think, somehow, click-throughs or just buzz-seeking “sponsors” are enough.

      I actually think they all expect to have their projects picke dup by traditional media. Sort of like TMI getting that back-of-the-cab deal, but bigger. Loren hopes, what? To get picke dup by G4 network? Or TMZ? Or something.

      It’s actually funny. They rhapsodize about the idea that they can do media completey differently. About how walls are falling. Rules are changing. About how “exciting” it all is.

      But then, when they are pricked or criticised, they cry about not being professional. And how they shouldn’t be held to those standards. Loren with his, hey, I’m not a journlaist thing above (really? then WHAT ARE YOU DOING? Did you not think there was some skills involved before you started an information buisness? How much thought have you put into your venture?). And JA’s don’t-take-it-so-seriously- defense of nonsociety’s shortcomings (and the Leave me Alone. This is a lot of Work! crap).

      Being an amateur is no excuse. It just make you, well, an amateur.

      • So basically, the #1 rule of business — “the customer is always right” — doesn’t apply to Web 2.0? Good luck with that!

    • (i am having commenting problems tonight …)

      i agree 100%. that attitude makes no sense to me, and i think it’ll ultimately be the downfall of all of these 2.0-types.

      it’s also extremely fucked up to say “don’t come here if you don’t like it,” when he, in fact, came HERE to draw our attention to the fact that this meet up was happening and would be filmed. i wouldn’t have known about it otherwise.

  32. From Julia Allison Baugher’s twitter:
    “The evil cell phone wench is STILL FUCKING TALKING. It has taken every ounce of self control I have not to smash the phone into her face.”
    8:37 PM May 31st from web
    The charming Julia Allison Baugher then proceeded to photo-ambush the girl on the bus and post her picture, without permission, not only across twitter, but found time to elaborate/brag/repost on her pretty pink blog as well.

    And we observers of this behaviour are the haters/loons? Um. Okay then, Mr. Carr. Whatever y’all say.

    • Don’t forget about the pic of the guy in the grocery store…

      ‘Does anyone know this hottie?!’ etc etc

  33. No, Julia Allison is a hero because she used her “real name” to assault a traveler. It’s the Paul Carr revolution in online civility. Nevermind that her “real name” is not Allison and that Meghan’s is not Asha. Also, pay no attention to the threats of violence and rampant law breaking.

  34. There was probably no way that this video would live up to my fantasy of Julia Allison Baugher being made to come clean or cry on camera. There’s no way someone like her who seems seriously mentally ill would agree to something like that, so I get it.

    I’d never heard of the two British dudes before, but they’re so incredibly appalling.

    Loren, I know it wasn’t quite the interview you were hoping for, which you fully admitted to from the get-go. The looks you had on your face during the interview really gave away how annoyed (and rightly so) you were during this interview. Any chance of you trying to have a one-on-one interview now that she thinks she won you over?

  37. Carr is too dense to realize that Julia’s “career” problems have nothing to do with her haterz. Her problems are in meatspace, not cyberspace. She lost the Star gig and the TONY gig all by her lonesome. She was ignored at SWSX and her behavior at other events turned people off. Her sense of entitlement, the lying, the manipulations, the attention whoring, all of that craziness is what hurts her, and it doesn’t take an RBNS or Loren’s vomiting puppet to make people cognizant of her crazy. All she has to do is show up in a tiara and high-side the event’s sponsor, or act like she’s god’s gift in a taxicab interview at SWSX, or expect to be treated like Oprah at a meeting. The chick seems damaged, and that’s sad, but unfortunately it’s the kind of crazy that draws anger or indifference instead of empathy. I understand why Loren didn’t rip her a new one. Look at some of her reactions in the video, and it _is_ sad. She doesn’t seem to have a clue that she’s undermining herself and has thrown a lot of opportunities away.

  38. So all of this build up and hyper ventilating has gotten Loren / Julia / Paul… what exactly? Less than 1,000 views of their video and some fleeting attention from a micro site? Zero replies on Loren’s own site? Jesus, I knew Julia was diim, but I really did think Loren was smarter than that.

    But I guess we are the dumb ones for being “played” by Loren and actually thinking he was going to ask Julia our questions. Oh well. Can we just move along and go back to making fun of Julia’s giant legs and stinky black tights? Which, BTW, that bit in the video where Julia talks about how she doesn’t read here (complete with dead giveaway body language that she was LYING) and then lists topics specifically brought up here – the black tights, the vacation destination, the vacation photo, the fat legs, etc. – was the only mildly amusing part of the whole video. Julia is not only a pathological liar, she is a shitty pathological liar and too dim to not get caught up in her lies.

    Julia, if you’re reading (and we know you are) please do yourself a favor and never agree to any more “candid” interviews again. You’re stupid is showing.

  39. YOUR stupid is showing. Sorry… my mind was temporarily turned to mush after viewing that ridiculous video for more than five minutes.

  40. I think that she’s so invested in fakery, that a genuine answer from her will not be forthcoming. She is not holding back because some creepy guy make fun of her bulimia, she has very little to contribute, that’s why she’s holding back.

    I feel it’s best to expect nothing from her. No coverage, no content, no new ideas. I’m even getting bored my this site, as it just shows how bored we are to come here and comment on all that she does (as I’m doing right now).

    Oh, and according to her Twitter she will be working on her swan song for Time Out, meanwhile she hasn’t been in Time Out for months. I’m sure she hasn’t been missed.

    Just did interview for my final send off from Time Out New York w my awesome EIC Michael Friedson. Aww, I’ll always cherish my time there.
    about 1 hour ago from web

    Question for all New Yorkers: Do you think the dating scene has changed in the last few years?
    about 2 hours ago from web

  41. Julia has fat legs and a dumptruck ass. She wears cheap dancing shinytights which she never washes, just wears them 9 times and tosses. Her hair pelts don’t match her hair and she is way too conscious of them when they are in. She wears more makeup than Joan Crawford did when she took over her daughter’s soap opera role. She lives in an overprices Polly Pocket apartment for the amount of money she could reasonably get a one bedroom walkup in Brooklyn with. Her eating habits rival mine for the psychotic self hatred they betray.

    Also she contours her face with makeup. To like…go to lunch. Wha…

  42. Carr: attempts to channel Hunter Thompson/Louis Theroux fail miserably.
    Yiannopolous: virgin loses his mind in mere presence of womanhood.
    Feldman: weird anger issues.
    Julia: smelly tights.

  43. Surely this event is something that Baugher might like to weigh in on? You reading this, Baugher? I’m sure you have a life and maybe you can’t be fucked having anything more to do with Julia Allison’s descent into shit. . .because you know. . . .I’ve got a life too. . . but even so!

    Miss ya, B

  44. Why did any of you think that this was going to go any way other than how it went? Loren is the same as Julia — he wants attention, and he knows he can get it by bashing her. It doesn’t mean that he actually hates her. He posts here because he knows he’ll get attention from you people. There have been other videos linked here of him being friendly with her in the past so why is this news?

    Man, I hate Julia, dudes, but I gotta wonder about the rest of y’all sometimes.

    Either way, that whole video was a pathetic joke, as is JABa, as is Loren, as are those two dumbstruck lil pricks, as is the entire idea that this “interview” was gonna uncover anything we didn’t already know.

    • Honestly, I never had any faith in Loren or his propaganda puppet machine. I just figured that someone who had the balls to, you know, publicly rant and rave about all of someone’s bad points and, you know, publicly announce he was going to grill her and we should all help out with questions, might actually not be full of shit. I mean, he planned this whole thing and now he’s all, “Suck it, haterz. LF + JA Forevz.” Who does that? It’s worrisome.

  45. I found her getting caught off guard when Loren asked her point black, Mary hates you, right? In a moment of unguarded candor JA admitted there is hatred between them. That was astonishing, she threw her quasi-partner under the bus and failed to lie when it would have been appropriate to do so, for a change, you know just dish the usual disingenuous bullshit. Today she has been scrambling on twitter, an attempt at damage control with MR, even sucking up about wanting to stay at her place in LA. Rambo should cut her off for good. This chick is loyal to NO ONE, unbelievable, and she apparently cannot comprehend why so many bridges are burning in her wake.

    • i hate the cocky way she answers that one.

      “we needed space … so she moved to houston.”

      fuck you, you smug little bitch! you didn’t win anything by driving one of your closest and only friends out of town.

      • i love that your icon is the click bag. at first i thought it was a whistle, but then i realized it is none other than the wrist fannypack in all its designer rip-off glory.

      • i was posting as “Mary’s Wrist Testicle” for awhile to go with the icon, but i went back to my real name recently.

    • Also, framing it as Mary hating Julia absolves Julia of responsibility for the situation: “Mary’s just a big bitch”, etc.

      Which she is, but… I recognise those rationalisations because I use them myself. When I’m annoyed at someone, I become convinced that they hate me, rather than accepting the truth of my own negative emotions which is that I hate them.

      Ms Baugher excepted, of course.

  46. I could only stomach 2 minutes of the interview. She’s such a smug little dogfart. I dislike her so, so very much.

  48. You guys, she loves “eastern medicine.” Isn’t she so much more than we ever thought she was?

  49. She loves ‘Eastern medicine’ like her girlcrush, Sarah Lane, loves Chinese medicine. JABA’s tweets about acupuncture are oddly reminiscent of Sarah’s recent tweets about it. Personally, I think the whole thing is hogwash.

  50. It seems to be a characteristic of this…new media whatever ?… generation that they are exceedingly bold, profane, etc. online but extremely defensive or “let’s all get along” in reality. This is something you didn’t find in old media. When we worked a story and got in-person push back or public criticism, we either stuck by our story because we actually had the facts or ate crow (or let our editors do it) when it was proved we were duped or didn’t have the real story. I go to RBNS for amusement but also for some sign that the JABA generation isn’t a complete loss. I hire people her age. This place is one sign that there’s some hope. Apparently not from the Loren/Carr/English guy cabal, however.

    I understand that my generation won’t control things forever, but I’d like to think that some standards were left behing.

  52. agh… so i’m 2/3 through the julia/loren video, and i’m thinking, “this is a sad girl who is manipulated by everyone around her”. they tell her to take the puppet and tell us to fuck it, she does it. they goad her into boasting about her facebook vanity url, she does it. feeding her egomania (mary and i can’t both fit in this town, so i made her leave). hey, at least she admitted to using randi (just kidding!). milo is a sad spectacle. then julia “doesn’t know” what loren is referring to with backdating, lying in her blog about vacation, etc., then suddenly launches into a thorough analysis of her vacation photo legalese debacle (she doesn’t read over on RBNS, yeah right!). horrible braying to milo’s “compliment”. oh yeah, and milo, JA ≠ mariah carey. completely pointless circle jerk of a video. can’t believe they waited for 90 minutes.

    • I watched about 2/3rds – and I still wonder why he waited around an hour and a half for this as the final product.

      It’s not EVEN a true interview; to refer to the piece as such would be disingenious. It’s more Loren telling Julia she’s awesome, but … x, y, z should change. Julia nods, says something that indicates she’s in on the joke, nods more, appears to pay attention, says that she can’t be a bitch because she’s a really nice person.

      There is about two minutes of actual interviewing.

  53. Since when does telling everyone to Fuck Off equate to the haterz having new respect for you? I’d much rather have someone say “you know what? You have a valid point there.” (And I’m looking at you on that one Loren). That’s what gets my respect.

    Tell me to Fuck Off and I most likely am going to assume you are being so incredibly defensive because you got called out on your shit and you’ve got no defense other than to tell me to Fuck Off. You know we’re kinda right. It doesn’t mean you have thick skin, it means you don’t have sufficient communication skills. The adult equivalent of taking your ball and going home. We can agree to disagree and we will and that’s fine. It is what it is.

    Truth be told, Loren, you annoyed me way, way less than that Carr guy. And yes, I already know you don’t care but, this is a blog o’ opinions and all…. so there.

    Back to this Carr guy. I don’t care if he likes Julia. Could care less if they are friends. Even Hitler had friends. It happens. But why is it that this guy assumes he is any qualified to mediate a meeting – even a meeting of this caliber. In my opinion, Loren, you should have said no to the mediation. You said it yourself – Julia is NOT Mariah Carey. Not some big huge media “get”. Was this exclusive with someone of her stature really worthy of all the concessions? The Paul Carr forced mediation? The hour and a half wait? I have to ask….did she also pull a Van Halen and demand you personally remove all the brown M&M’s out of the bag before you served them to her in a crystal dish? Did you have to guarantee that her Evian would be available at room temperature. I mean, come on already….

    That said, a couple things I noticed with regard to the actual interview. She doesn’t like taking people down anymore? Huh? Was it just in the last few weeks she’s turned over this leaf? I bet Mary, Rosie and Kelli and a whole host of others would beg to differ on that. So when you tell her she needs to START being bitchy, well, excuse me but I thought she already had that pretty well handled.

    I do think you zinged her in a couple of spots. I just think you pretty well defeated yourself before Ol’ Cupcakes and Whimsy even got one word out. Think about it. This is a woman who addresses both men and women by screeching “Dude!” when she wants to make a particularly important point. How anyone ever takes her seriously, I’ll never know.

    On a totally unrelated note……has anybody ever told you that you sound exactly like Dee Snider?

    • BRAVO!

      And, I still appreciate Loren’s voice. That will not change. Good call on Dee Snider. Also, Mrs. Feldman has my respect.

      Seriously, Loren, I think you are a little disappointed in yourself and that fact that you waited 1.5 hours and than had to have P. Carr (who the FUCK is he?) mediate. I’d feel crappy about myself too.

  54. Appropos of nothing, I just noticed that That Girl Allison has modeled her blog after JA. Examples are her obnoxious use of “Ms.” before a friend’s name: http://thatgirlallison.tumblr.com/post/124571077/and-one-by-ms-gg-merkel-this-one-is-a-faked, and her use of the ridiculous sounding “yay.com”: http://thatgirlallison.tumblr.com/post/118139174/the-graffiti-wall-on-your-way-into-the-main-club.

    And as an aside….this girl rivals JA in terms of appearance, too. Neither one comes close to approaching attractive, yet both think they are God’s gift to men.

  55. I said this over on the other thread…but i think i was late to the party so i will say it again here. julia once again shows herself to be completely devoid of wit and charm. “dude!”, indeed. paul and milo were absolutely sickening fanboys. milo was practically breastfeeding. paul carr is clearly grasping at relevance and really, just a tool.
    loren: i thought you did ok. i totally wish you would have packed up your crap and left instead of waiting. but i get it that it isn’t realistic to just totally trash somebody to their face, especially when they have some surreal brit fanboy posse in tow.

  56. Watched it. Well, more than I thought I could handle. Sorry for the late commenting.

    Loren, if you’re supposed to be an entertainer, fucking entertain us. If you are a comedian, make us laugh. You deny being a journalist, so stop asking for tough questions to ask.

    This read like a puff piece on morning television. It was dull and for the most part about flattering her. And that’s fine, but admit it and stop posturing with your peacock attitude and your ‘I am a new media pioneer’ schtick. It’s worn. Telling JA to do mimic your attitude neither makes it more impressive in you nor helps her in a meaningful way. If she is sad, ask and get to the bottom of it. Maybe it needs to get worse before it gets better. Pretending the clothes are on the emperor is not going to help her beyond 10 minutes.

    If you think this interview was weak, admit it and talk us through it. That’s more new media than anything else with this whole interview. I’ve stopped interest in you not because of the interview, but because of how you acted afterwards. web 2.0 was about collaboration and conversation, remember? Go back to that. you’ve done great work – this will never be remembered as great work.

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