Same Shit, Different Dude


I thought it might be fun to compare her latest long-winded, Poor Me breakup spew with the one she wrote about Prom King. This was less than 14 months ago, bitches. Someone needs to get some help. Haven’t you heard? Once again — she is NOT okay right now! She is heartbroken after blogging and Tweeting the shit out of yet another relationship! She has cried and cried and cried and cried some more! Once again another boy fled after spending some face time with her, pointed out to her how mental she is, and once again she is so very heartbroken, because she loved him so very much, and he is the most AMAZING PERSON TO EVER LIVE, and she simply must take a little break from posting now. She needs time to heal!

From March 29, 2010:

I don’t really know where to begin, except to say that right now, at this very moment, I don’t want to write this entry.  I don’t want to write it not because it doesn’t need to be written – it does – but because I would rather take an Ambien, crawl into my bed and go to sleep.

After last night, in which I tossed and turned with anxiety until 6 am, at which point I fell into a nightmare-filled semi-sleep until 10 am, I decided, “Enough.”  In fact, the only thing I actually accomplished today was going to my doctor and actually – for the first time in my insomniac life – asking for an Ambien prescription.

If you’re surprised to hear me invoke the big A (Ambien!?!  But I don’t believe in meds!!), that should give you an idea of how willing I am to try all of the solutions I haven’t before.

So, let me fill you in a little here.  I think it was readily apparent I had a bit of a breakdown last Tuesday, around 4 am, a time in which breakdowns tend to occur.

I’ve always found it fascinating, in a horrific sort of way, how life likes to hit us with 1-2 punches.  In this case, for me at least, it felt like a 1-2-3 punch.  First Jordan left, then I found out my ex Michael got engaged to the girl he began dating right after me, then – yep – on Tuesday evening around 10 pm, Prom King broke up with me.

And that was it, sort of.  The idea of coming on here and posting some happy photo of a cupcake or a pair of shoes or a fun, inspirational quote was too much for me.  And to explain what happened – that seemed even worse.  I couldn’t handle it.  I felt like I was drowning.  To own up to all of that – to tell you how much pain I was in (and why) – I just couldn’t.  I didn’t want to talk about it.

I wanted to crawl into my bed, which I did, by the way, and cry.  And cry.  And cry.

It embarrasses me to write in a public forum that my response to a breakup at the age of 29 is almost identical to my response to a breakup at the age of 16.  How is that possible??  Does this not get any easier??

First, please know that while he most definitively broke up with me, he did so in the most mature, calm, considered manner, and he did “leave the door open” for getting back together at some point in the future.  Honestly, I really don’t want to get into the details of why our relationship wasn’t working, but suffice it to say, the fault is on my shoulders.  The lightest explanation (by that I mean, this is not everything, but some of the less personal things) has to do with a lot of judgments I made about him at the beginning – things like “he’s too young to take seriously” and “I don’t want to live in New York City anymore” and “I don’t want to date a lawyer” and “He doesn’t read enough.”  I allowed myself to get distracted by details which don’t matter (who cares if he’s 25 if he treats me well??) and lose sight of the Big Stuff.  Stuff like: Is he a good person?  Does he make me laugh? Am I a good person when I’m around him?

I over-analyzed everything (um, hello … have you met me??) and managed to make a loving and confident man insecure (at least with regard to me).  That led to a sort of downward spiral in our communication, a lot of misunderstandings, and a fair amount of fighting.  The sad thing is – we both love each other as people, and it didn’t have to go down that route.

Ultimately, he just didn’t feel the same way about me anymore, and while I completely understand why, it was a tough blow to take – especially because I felt that I had brought it upon myself.

I don’t know whether we’ll get back together or not, but I do know that I have made a promise to myself that I will NEVER make these mistakes with another man again.

Here’s what I’ve done in the intervening time:

  1. Re-read every single text he ever sent me.  Cry.
  2. Re-read every single email he ever sent me.  Cry.  Forward some to him.  Realize that’s really pathetic.  Regret it.  Cry more.
  3. Call him about seven times in the first three days, crying.  Realize that’s really, REALLY pathetic. Regret it.  Cry more.
  4. Replay every single scene in our relationship where I screwed up, and reenact those scenes with a different reaction on my part – and new outcomes.  Like Sliding Doors except no Gwyneth Paltrow.  Then cry.
  5. Call my mother at least three times a day.
  6. Attempt to meditate like a Buddist monk. Fail.  Stupid monks never broke up with anyone.
  7. Lose appetite. Not eat much.  Then eat chocolate.  Then not eat much again.  Weigh myself.  Secretly think that only benefit to breaking up is break up weight loss.  Still would rather be fat and with him.
  8. Decide never to date again.
  9. Decide that “never” means at least a month.
  10. Contemplate buying one-way ticket to ashram in India, all Eat Pray Love style.
  11. Realize I don’t know of any ashrams in India.  Think maybe I should just go to Italy and eat instead.
  12. Wonder if I’ll ever find anyone who treats me as well again.
  13. Cry.
  14. Play with my dog … constantly.  Realize dog and mom are only things that cheer me up.  Talk to my dog a little. Watch dog yawn: Dog has seen many of these breakup-meltdowns.  Dog knows “this too shall pass.”
  15. Days pass.  Things get better.  Then they get worse.  Then they get better.  Then worse.  Up. Down. Up. Down. Down. Down. Up.  I’ve been here before (too many times), and I know – intellectually – it will get better.  That doesn’t always make it feel better right here, right now.
  16. Actually work out.  This is a small miracle inandof itself.
  17. Go to church.  Yes. Church.  In Manhattan.
  18. Talk – multiple times – to every close friend I have.  They all check in with me at least every other day.  This does help, you know.
  19. Force myself not to call ex.  Succeed.  Feel very victorious.  Call my mom instead.  I have a good mom.
  20. After a horrible, fitful night of non-sleep, give in and ask my doctor for an Ambien prescription – just to get me through these next two weeks or so.  Feel a little embarrassed, but the only thing worse than getting over a break-up is getting over a break-up on no sleep.
  21. Write this entry. Feel a hell of a lot better at the end of it than I did in the beginning. 🙂

Of course, that’s not the end of the story, and the pain I talked of in my entry last week wasn’t just due to losing him … I’m well aware that when you have a reaction like that (or rather, when I do), it’s telling you that you need to reassess your life choices in a way that you hadn’t before.

I still don’t know whether I’ll continue to “lifecast” the way I had been … I just know I can’t stop WRITING.  I don’t know what the future holds.  But I do know this: when I received the emails many of you sent me over the last few days, they lifted me up. I can’t even describe how much they meant to me.  They made me feel as if I wasn’t alone.

Because I’m not.  You’re not.  I think there is something going on here, with this generation – there’s something very lost about us.  Or maybe that’s just me, and those of you who wrote in to tell me you felt similarly.

I feel it so strongly that I want to talk more about it, and I want to explore it with you … people who are struggling through it, and those who have come out on the other side.  Inasmuch as there ever is “the other side.”  (One girl wrote me that she goes through this every two years!)  When I read through a few of my past entries, it became apparent that I’ve been lost for quite some time now.

I still don’t have the answers, but just admitting – out loud, here – that I’m in pain, that I’m trying to find them, that I’m working on finding a therapist, exploring my faith, even (sigh) taking a bit of medication to make sure I get good sleep at night – it helps.

You helped.  So … thank you for that.

Okay, I have a little white dog to pet now.



And PS. I’m also working on enabling the comments here, so you’ll be able to interact with me (and each other) in a way you couldn’t before.  I think that will go a long way to allowing us to all understand each other better.  And maybe, maybe … it could be helpful?  Even fun??  I could use a little fun right now.

PPS. This doesn’t mean I’m back posting full time.  It just means I’m explaining where I’m at right now.  I feel VERY vulnerable and extremely fragile.  So … please.  Understand that.


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428 Responses to Same Shit, Different Dude

  1. Holly O says:


  2. Beth says:

    Totally random question. How do the LA/SF/NYC/Boston/Chicago courts vary in awarding child support if a hypothetical lady hypothetically gets knocked up months after her breakup using frozen sperm wrung from a used condom?


  3. Scooby Don't says:


    Hope this works!

  4. JuLIAR Allison says:

    Ashram, how can you help?

    Hint: I don’t think you can. Unless you dole out meds with your enlightenment.

    • Ashram Andy says:

      Please to remember that our litigators have disavowed via public notice any ties between ourselves and this person. Forever. And ever.

      Brother Andrew

  5. JuLIAR Allison says:

    Also, I’m calling sometime in the next week – Tuesday?- for when embarrasing pics are leaked. Jack & Jools in their matching footie PJs, frinstance…

    • ICrayAnAwfulLotLately says:

      Photo essay of “The Way We Were” in 3 … 2 …
      (And when she finds out he’s dating someone new … repeat … but reinforced with personal txt mssgs, email excerpts, and crowd sourcing on “how do you save voice message files in a format you can post to tumblr?”)

  6. Can-Swiss says:

    Just wait until her column is dropped.

    • Bouncing Little Burro, Attorney at LOL says:

      Someone in the previous thread said that her editors gave her a “shape up or ship out” talk. I don’t remember reading anything like that previously. Is that true?


        They were speculating, but it seems possible.

      • Big Head Fraud & the Blondsters says:

        I seriously doubt that any of those ‘meetings’ included dialogue to the effect of:“Well done, Jules, well done!”

      • juliaspublicist cried his rhinestone off juliaspublicist says:

        I’m willing to bet it, based on intel we once received from inside TMS. She probably won’t be dropped until her contract runs out. Which she will spin that she wanted to try something else.

        • Dr. Gary says:

          The Julie Albertsons Show just gets better and better!

        • Blinky, Fat, Flapping Fuck - I'm Boycotting Sweden! says:

          Just like what happened with “Star”? Many people laughed our asses off at how she just assumed that after putting in some time as the “Star” rep on cable TV that she’d get a job at Fox (or one of the other cablers) just like her “Star” predecessor did.

          Much hilarity ensued!

  7. Albie Quirky says:

    Maybe she should just save this to Clipboard for cutting and pasting. Or automate the process, even.

    • Tremendous Liar; Donkey of Repugnance says:

      Yes, perhaps everyone’s favorite tech expert should learn how to do a mail merge so she can automate this process. It would probably cut her workweek from like 80 hours to 70, bunnies! That would give her much more time to help Ashton and work towards the goal of working towards goals in the future!

  8. GFP says:

    Serious question… Who dumped who? I’m very confused reading Julia’s Pancakes Break-up Post. In PK’s, it’s very clear that she got dumped. But what about Pancakes? She says that she “started the conversation” and that she “changed her mind” the next day and said she wanted to continue dating? So does that mean that she technically dumped him and tried to take it back, but then he was too hurt by the night before that he wouldn’t budge?

    If so, did Julia really decide that she wasn’t that into Pancakes and that she can do better than him? I thought that the McCain name would definitely make her fight harder for it, even though he’s not all that attractive/accomplished. Thoughts?

    • Albie Quirky says:

      I am pretty sure Pancakes had already made pre-dumping initiatives, otherwise she would have been there for his birthday. The whole “I started the conversation” seems like a face-saving measure to me.

      • Dr. Gary says:


        I would LOVE to be a fly on the wall, listening in on Señora Cindy’s conversation with anyone re: Julie after she’s cleared out of there. This whole break up has Señora Cindy written all over it.

        I also don’t believe the break up went down on Friday. It was odd that she didn’t go *home* for Señor Yack’s birthday and that she had extended her stay in Chicago.

        I think Yack was doing the gradual blow off. Making excuses, like his schedule is keeping him extra busy, lots of studying to do, etc. Telling her ‘it’s not a good time to come home’ (LOL. As IF Señora Cindy’s condo was EVER her ‘home’). She must have sensed that something was wrong. And was either in major denial, or freaking out and trying to get info out of him over the phone.

        However, Señora Cindy is better at playing this game than Julie is. Maybe she advised Yack to stay calm and make Julie think everything was fine. Meanwhile, the plan all along was to kick her out as soon as she got there. Hence, the ‘talk’.

        Well played, Señora Cindy. Well played.

        • Dr. Fraud, MD says:

          Perhaps the equation is more basic: When the (emotional and or financial or physical or whatever) cost of pussy maintenance becomes equal to or greater than the satisfactions garnered therefrom, then 1. hit the abort button and 2. go out on the hunt again. I’ve always maintained that guys like Jack operate on very simple rules with women.

    • Jacy says:

      Remember: Take nothing she says at face value. Spin, legalese, face-saving — these are her specialties. Perhaps she initiated a conversation, but I guarantee it was because he told her they needed to have one.

      • AllDayBray says:

        This. It’s all a lie, or at the very least spun/altered to make her look like the tiny and cute princess victim. Every. Single. Fucking. Thing. Always. No. Matter. How. Small.

        WHO. IS. SHE.

      • F. Scott Bitchgerald says:

        Misread “face-saving” as “face-sitting”


    • Bouncing Little Burro, Attorney at LOL says:

      I think the convo was meant to be a manipulative tool to “scare” Jack into thinking that she was no longer into him. She expected that it would prompt him to freak out about the future of their relationship and spew out all his love for her. “Noooo, Julia, this relationship is fine! I loooove you…we’ll make it work, I promise!!!” Instead, the plan completely backfired, Jack saw through her bullshit, and told her it was time to end things.

      • nioniel says:

        I think the whole post is bullshit. It’s all a bunch of touchy-feely nonsense that she thinks sounds good and somehow rationalizes or explains the fact that the whole thing ended up down the toilet because it wasn’t a real “relationship” to begin with. Julia kept trying to make it into something it most certainly wasn’t, or at the very least make it SOUND like it. Her whole attitude about relationships is so dysfunctional, so emotionally stunted, so sick. I just can’t get past the “he can’t fufill his dreams without crushing mine and I can’t fulfill my dreams without crushing his…”
        Did Jack intimate that he wasn’t interested in pursuing a political career after the military so Julia’s fantasy of being Mrs. Senator Jack McCain was crushed? What dreams does she have? Be a writer? Be a “social media expert”? Be a cupcake gourmand? What is it she wants to do that his being in the military would “crush”?

        It’s all a huge, steaming crock. The only reason I feel badly for her is that she hasn’t got a clue about what happened here and is doomed to repeat it over and over and over and that no one close to her will aid her in seeing that she needs professional help.

        • Longtime Lurker says:

          Eh, I don’t think she’s actually that broken up by the break up. I don’t think she was ever that into him, but more into the idea of him: a McCain, a future wedding. But this is Julia, remember. She isn’t going to Guam, she isn’t going to wait around. And, to be totally fair, if one of my friends had met a guy six months ago, felt something sincere, given it a try, and then realized, nope, this waiting around life is not what I want, fair enough. But since it’s Julia, you know it didn’t play out that genuinely.

          She’s sad it couldn’t go her way. She’s sad it’s over. But I don’t think she’s sad about not being with this particular person.

      • Big Sugar says:


    • Blinky, Fat, Flapping Fuck - I'm Boycotting Sweden! says:

      I have no doubt that she was willing to endure anything to be Mrs. McCain.

  9. Albie Quirky says:

    Also, what is her obsession with relatively minor age differences? I know lots of people who have great relationships with a four- or five-year age gap.

    • Jacy says:

      My man is five years younger. It’s the best relationship I’ve ever been in, and he wants marriage and kids while I don’t. If they love you, they don’t care if you’re older, and if you love them, you don’t care if they’re younger. Sheesh.

      • Albie Quirky says:

        My sister-in-law is 9 years older than my brother, and they are blissfully happy. Of course, she doesn’t make herself look all Motherboy by dressing self-consciously “young”.

      • DirtyLakeMichigan says:

        I too am 5 years older than my catman and we’ll be married 13 years in July.

        • wonkeye says:

          Been w/my catman for seven years and we have a five-year (I’m older) age difference too.

          But for Julie Albertson to find someone less mature than her, she’s going to have to start scanning grade schools. Also, I am drank. And I believe I had some gluten with dinner.

        • Handbag Stuffed With Hair says:

          Exact same here, and it will be 14 years July 4th.

    • Tremendous Liar; Donkey of Repugnance says:

      Woman not same age as or younger than her man? Gasp! That violates traditional gender roles, and the only thing that makes ineffably feminist Julia more uncomfortable than that is food!

  10. ShesJustStupid says:

    I don’t believe anything she says. I don’t think it was his idea that she move in. I don’t believe he was stressed out and needed to see her while she was in Sweden and I don’t think this breakup just suddenly happened. She needed to go there to get the dog and she chose mother’s day so she could see the famous family. I also think she deliberately left Lily there so she could make believe it was her home. She’s a dick.

    • Scooby Don't says:

      Some people leave an article of clothing behind. Only an ass like the Donkey would make a living creature a leave-behind.

  11. Sincerely Curious says:

    This will not be a popular comment, but I thought I’d ask the question. How would we feel is Julia ends up killing herself at some point in the future? As much fun as it is to laugh about the craziness, and I do enjoy the creativity of the posters here, it does cross my mind that this site may be playing into the further destabilization of an already unstable person.
    I saw something similar happen on a poker forum called 2+2 where a young woman named Brandi Hawbaker (look her up, its all there online) was tirelessly ridiculed by the online poker community eventually killed herself. People didn’t believe she had even died at first. For months she’d been “attention whoring” all over the place with various scandals and she seemingly enjoyed all of it.
    I’m not saying it is the fault of the poker forum that she killed herself, but without doubt some of the folks who were cruelest to her must have moments where they question the part they played in her death.
    Would Julia ever get that desperate? Many here would say no, she’s just a drama queen, etc. People said the same stuff about Brandi. It seems like she’s just pretending, that she just wants attention.
    But I think in a few years the funny will be long gone and the situation will be even more desperate. Maybe we should consider why we seem to so enjoy watching this person come apart at the seams.
    I’m not denying that I also find it interesting and entertaining, I follow this stuff like everyone else. But it’s always seemed more like a TV show, and I can forget this is a real person who is probably not doing very well…what do y’all think?

    • Cankles says:

      Hai Julia!
      Honestly, we have no responsibility. It is up to her to go private. If you put stuff out there then people will critique.We are a lot nicer here than many sites are on “public figures”. If you choose to put your life out there then you choose to deal with everything that comes with that the bad and the good. In this case mostly bad. PS Donkey

      • Sincerely Curious says:

        I knew someone would make a joke that I’m Julia, but thanks for the response anyhow.

        I was just talking about this with my wife. But I’m really not buying the whole argument that she’s putting it out there, so she’s fair game. Agreed that if she went private with her life, this stuff would pretty much cease.

        But the same could be said for Brandi Hawbaker.

        My question is how will YOU or others feel if she does kill herself at some point? Is there culpability to some degree if we add to a sick person’s misery simply because they, in their insanity, allow themselves to be used as a public toilet?

        Julia is clearly not in an enviable spot as far as her current life situation. That she comes across as clueless, self-absorbed and arrogant does not help her case any. I get that.

        But my question goes beyond the point about “is it within our rights to comment on her life”, because obviously it is. My question is how will we feel in having participated and added to someone else’s sadness and misfortune?

        And for the fun of it, let’s just say I am Julia. Fine. That doesn’t at all change the relevancy of my question here.

        • AFGHANI'S OYSTER SHACK says:

          I mostly feel helpless to help her. Way back in the day (2006-07?) I used to exchange emails with her and tried to help her see that she might need to talk to someone because she had no idea how others see her, how her actions affect others, and how a lot of her “likes”(chocolate, pink, fad diets, yada yada) are just crutches that help her block out real life.

          Basically, she needs help and her parents should’ve helped her a long time ago. Of course, as an adult, no one can force her to do so. Under normal circumstances, a parent has no moral responsibility for their adult child, especially a 30 yr old. However, these parents fund their 30 yr old’s life, provide her shelter, and so forth. As a commenter, anything bad I’d feel would be mitigated by the fact that I’ve already tried to talk sense to this girl, while her parents encourage and enable her mania.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            Eh, it’s nice that you tried and I think in a weird way this “shaming” that goes on here is a sort of bizarro attempt to help Julia gone awry.

            But it’s definitely not cute to keep bagging on this chick for years on end like this…

          • AFGHANI'S OYSTER SHACK says:

            … which is where her parents (and maybe “friends”) should come in. If we can see this stuff, then they can see it. But they do nothing! Address that fact… seriously, what do you think of the Baughers enabling Julia, laughing along with her manic laughs, and so forth? Do tell.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            Obviously Julia’s family and friends aren’t of help to her. How else does someone get to this point if not by having a terrible support system?
            That is to be pitied.
            When you see someone who might be down on their luck because of having a shitty family (rich families can still be shitty), and having no close friends, is your first instinct to kick them when they’re down?

          • Jacy says:

            Also not cute that she keeps blogging and Tweeting the crap out of every relationship, in particular one with an OMG famous person whose OMG family might not have appreciated it.

            All she has to do is show some discretion. Why did anyone ever need to know about Pancakes? Or Greasy? Or Prom King? Or TK?

          • mcakes is tots nots gonna tie the knots says:

            Do you seriously think she is going to stop sucking ass and get help if we just stopped bagging on her?

            She obviously gets some satisfaction out of continuing her ridiculous antics, and she is managing to milk some money and fame out of it. As long as she does, we have a right to get satisfaction out of mocking it.

            Should people stop making fun of Speidi because they are self-involved freak shows? Why do people come in here trying to say Julia deserves some sort of sacred get-out-of-jail free card? It’s completely ludicrous.

    • Tribune Slingbacks says:

      I’d feel awful but not responsible. The difference between Julia and ALL THE GIRLS (all the girls who are legitimately bullied, at least) is that Julia has systematically sought out the spotlight since college. She’s always wanted people talking about her. I don’t even think RBNS/RBD actually bothers her that much– Dadsers’s Cease and Desists only came once Jack was on the Baugher family radar.

      That said, directly contacting her to rub salt in her wounds over this breakup would be pushing it way too far. A healthy spectacle/audience boundary is a good thing for everyone.

      • Sincerely Curious says:

        If Julia is sincerely mentally ill–which I believe she very well may be–does this change anything? Mentally ill people sometimes cannot leave the spotlight because it’s all they have…

        • The Cabinet of Dr. Bobby says:

          If she is actually mentally ill, the responsibility is on her to seek help, or if she is unable to do so, her parents to seek help on her behalf. We’re strangers and bystanders – only an enabler would argue that it’s our responsibility that she be helped.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            My argument is that it’s perhaps a good idea not to publicly vilify and attack and demean someone who clearly is not in their right mind.

          • Holly O says:

            I agree that it’s probably not a good idea; however, the posts and comments of a single satirical blog do not amount to “public vilification”.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            Keep setting up straw man arguments why don’t you? I never said it was anyone’s responsibility to get Julia help.
            I instead make the point that you can easily put Julia on ignore rather than enjoy taunting and humiliating her because she fails at life.

          • Big Head Fraud & the Blondsters says:

            The ‘IGNORE’ option works several ways – for instance, rather than ask here for speculative responses to a hypothetical scenario, you could ignore what goes on here & go instead to the poker forum to inquire how those people feel about another person’s actual actions of which they had absolutely no control over.

        • Tribune Slingbacks says:

          And drug addicts sometimes can’t stop using because it’s all they have. If she needs help, getting it is her responsibility and to a lesser degree her loved ones’, not ours.

      • Sincerely Curious says:

        BTW, one other point about people who are “legitimately bullied” versus “illegitimately bullied” (whatever that would be)…
        I don’t think bullies every think of themselves as victimizing anybody. In the bullies mind, it’s justifiable because the person they are attacking is stupid, unlikeable, somehow unworthy of respect.
        When you dehumanize someone, in terms of thinking of them as somehow deserving of ridicule or being less than others because they are ugly, stupid, stuck up, etc. You therefore validate your behavior as being okay.
        Sorry, I think this is consistent with the broad definition of bullying.

        • AFGHANI'S OYSTER SHACK says:

          Are you that Raincoaster idiot? If so, fuck off.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            Dont have any idea who you’re talking about. Why should it matter who I am? Ad hominem attacks won’t get you anywhere, why don’t you speak to my points?

          • AFGHANI'S OYSTER SHACK says:

            I have addressed your points. And yes, it would matter if you’re Raincoaster, because that person likes to stoke controversy and I’d rather not feed into that.

            You clearly do not know much of Julia’s story. If you really found the blog “through [your] wife”, ask her to share that info with you.

        • Tribune Slingbacks says:

          She’s not a child, she’s not a minority, she doesn’t have a disability (or at least a diagnosed one). Julia trying to garner sympathy by co-opting recent media attention on the bullying of children was despicable. She’s an adult, mentally ill or not.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            I don’t care about Julia’s attempts to be a poster-girl for bullying. I’m talking about the reality of this site and what it’s purpose is.

          • Tribune Slingbacks says:

            The reality of the site is that we’re watching and discussing the reality TV-on-the-internet show that Julia produces and stars in. Is it mean to mock people? Sure. But by your logic people should be ashamed of themselves and questioning their life choices every time they blow off some steam by laughing at the Real Housewives of New York.

        • Holly O says:

          Adopting the ubiquitous schoolyard analogy, there’s a big difference between saying mean things about someone and maliciously interfering in their life.

          Insofar as RBD is a ‘community’, we have consistently, decisively condemned this kind of involvement in Julia’s life. We want to pass a few mean notes about about her, not beat her up and steal her lunch money.

          Unlike victims of real bullying, Julia has complete control of her interactions with her haters. If she weren’t so voraciously self-obsessed, she’d ignore this particular blog and that would be the end of it.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            Seems like a pretty cheap loophole you’re all after. If all you want is to skate on a technicality, than fine.
            But the sentiment in this place is one of cruelty and derision leveled at a person who you attempt to dehumanize because she is a) rich b) self-absorbed c) a social climber d) clueless
            All of these things may be true, but regardless of how despicable she may or may not be in real life, this site adds nothing of value and has real potential to be harmful.
            I do think it’s pretty akin to facebook bullying, etc. no matter how hard you all try to spin it.

          • Little Orphan Lilly says:

            Okay, Sincerely Curious, this is getting old. Your initial comment was, I think, a worthwhile question, but the fact that you’re coming back to every response with ever-more-vitriolic responses tips your hand somewhat.

            People have already said this, but I’ll say it again: this is not bullying. Even leaving aside the point that, as a public figure, Julia is directly soliciting the public’s opinion of her, we are not going after Julia, confronting her, or contacting her. Dislike–even vocal dislike–is not the same thing as bullying, and to argue otherwise is an indication of how superficial your understanding of the issue is.

          • Donksers says:

            We get it, Seriously Curious. You’ve made your point. But you’re lecturing the wrong people. Take it to her fucked-up enabling parents. They’re the ones who are responsible for this wreck of a donkey and her ongoing shitshow. They need to stop supporting her endless narcissism and lazyass-ness and get her in to therapy. It’s pretty amazing that you’re trying to pin Robin and Peter’s failures in child-raising and Julia’s own instability on RBD.

        • reformed says:

          Probably TMI, but I recently read a fantastic book called “Love Without Hurt” about emotionally abusive relationships (written by Dr. Stosny who is very well respected in the field, and read by me because stress recently pushed my love relationship into a very hurtful place) and one of the very interesting things I read in that book was that studies show that people decide how fair their actions are by how their actions are working for them, and how fair or unfair others actions are by how they impact them. I mean, yeah, hello common sense, but it’s true. Most posters on this site will say they’re being fair because so far, their actions (comments, etc) are serving them just fine. But it’s unfair for the plug to be pulled on our site. Julia views us all as unfair because our actions do impact her in negative ways (and if someone wants to argue against that, go right ahead… but I don’t think you can since it doesnt make any sense for us to sit here and say “you do NOT feel that way, Julia!”) because it makes her feel bad.

          I’ve thought about this a lot, actually, which is why my posting on rbns has always been off and on. As I’ve said before, I’ve been bullied on the internet quite harshly. I also developed clinical depression and anxiety after several kids committed suicide on my college campus. I’m not your typical “victim” type (I rarely discuss these things, never for attention, and only ever bring them up to shut someone else up about their self-victimization [which is actually quite rude, I should probably stop doing that]) and I am DEFINITELY not Julia (I live in the greater Seattle area). But here are my thoughts, beware that there will surely be a lot of contradictions to follow:

          1. Julia evokes a very strong response from a very large number of people. Look at the hits on this site, look at the number of comments, look at the time and creativity and cleverness that goes into the posts, funny pictures, and memes that we’ve created. That response is worth something; it means SOMETHING. She is not just some random nice woman that walks the line of normalcy that we keep poking at for absolutely no reason (imho, Jessica Quirk is one of those people). The fact that it comes at the expense of one individual is unfortunate.

          2. Julia is walking, instead, a very confused line of internet celebrity. 10-20 years from now there will probably be a billion books and studies out about what that means, who it includes, and why the “average joe” feels the way they do about these people. The bloggers and vloggers are especially tricky. You have so much access to these peoples lives that you feel like you know them, but most do not break the fourth wall in actuality. They keep their relationships private, they get “too” internet famous and cant respond to emails as quickly or as in-depth, they start shilling… and things start going downhill. There are a lot of Youtubers, especially, that I feel this way about. In the past three years of watching youtube, I’ve watched Elle and Blair (yeah, the ones Julia has commented on a couple of times –p.s. they have a very active hate site too) go from normal girls in the mountains of Tennessee to total sell out glamour girls. And especially in the case of internet fame there is a LOT of jealousy going on. Fame/notoriety and the opportunities that come along with those things used to be a lot more difficult to attain: you had to move to Southern California, you had to look a certain way, you had to have x, y, and z, talents, you had to know the right people, etc. And not that it isn’t still very much that way (Blair and Elle aren’t exactly ugly girls), but “survival of the fittest” for internet fame means something different than in traditional fame yet it is just as arbitrary: you had to start your YT channel several years ago, be likeable, provide good content, etc, etc. There are a thousand new “gurus” coming to youtube every day, hoping to build a Blair and Elle-esque empire because they want the same opportunities. Becuase even if it’s not just plain jane jealousy, it is some level of jealousy, and I’ll admit it (as I’ve seen multiple people do here before). No, I don’t want the exact.same.existence as Julia Allison or Elle and Blair Fowler, but damn if I did have their opportunities, their money, their free trips to Sweden, or their walk-in closets of makeup, I think that I would enjoy it more and play the part better.

          3. At the same time, the arguments that “we’re not responsible” for Julia’s feelings are weak. I’m not responsible for anyone but myself, and I’m the first to say that, but that doesn’t mean I get to conduct myself however I want (see above: just because my actions are working for me doesn’t mean they’re fair). I’m no more responsible for Julia’s feelings than I am for my neighbors dog, but if I hit my neighbors dog as I’m backing out of my driveway I had better own up to it. If Julia committed suicide tomorrow (which I think is very improbable, but I hope never happens nonetheless) I would feel terrible, and some guilt. Obviously I would not personally be wholly responsible, and it’s probably a good dosing of that childhood Catholic guilt, but I would feel regret for having participated in this site.

          4. That said, I have and continue to feel very bad for Julia because to be perfectly honest, I don’t think JULIA feels good for Julia. I think she knows better than anyone how unhappy she is, how unfulfilled she is, how out of sync with her dreams her life is. Yeah, she has enough money to play around but doesn’t everyone get sick of summer vacation in the middle of August? I think it was really wise of her to break up with Jack (and I do believe it was her decision, though I will say that I think it was at least partly to annoy everyone here who wanted a wedding and at least partly because she actually read our site and probably did some reality checking with herself). Even though this breakup reeks of PK, I think she did the mature thing. I think she’s tired of all of this and might finally be ready to grow up a little bit.

          5. So I wish that there were a way that this site could exist without her taking it personally…. because even though the content of this site is very personal at times, I don’t think it’s necessarily all about Julia, it’s definitely what she represents. I wish that Julia would alter her online presence to be what it should be. Blogging has changed a LOT in the past five years, less than 10% of my very full google reader is personal “lifecasting” or blogging (and I include the handful of mommy-blogs I follow in that number). But I identify with the biggest problem of Julias blog, that I’m not confident she has even come to realize. Which is that her blog lacks a focus, yet she feels that she has something to say. She wants to be someone that can be approached about a multitude of things (fashion and technology most notably), but she’s gotten very anxious about the details and the branding that she’s forgotten the most important part: CONTENT! And unlike Julia, my biggest hurdle with just posting the damn content already is a lack of time due to my day job. I think Jordan Reid has really found her niche, and apart from the too-obvious shills (they’re just too random to be seamless) I think her blog is cohesive and content is great.


          • reformed says:

            and wow holy tl;dr. sorry, I find this internet celebrity/tech/social media thing more interesting than is probably normal and no one in my circle of friends is interested, so this is something that i’ve wanted to discuss for a long time but “couldn’t” aaaaand i’m really stoned…

    • AFGHANI says:

      I don’t think RBD would have anything to do with such a scenario, one way or the other. If Julia was my friend or sibling or even distant relative, I’d look at the people around her who could have done something. For the most part, their actions seem to reinforce Julia’s mania. Just last month, Momser went on a trip with Julia to shill for Sweden, so Momser had plenty of opportunities to try to get through to her little burro. Instead, when they returned it was just more humblebragging and fighting with twitter people about sugar/candybars. Dadster, instead of helping Julia get her life together, gives her a place to crash and a credit card to fly all over, while threatening RBD commenters via weird faxes.

      So…. yeah, RBD wouldn’t be the first place I’d look for blame.

      • Sincerely Curious says:

        Again, my point is not that this is the first place to assign blame. But that this place may in fact add fuel to the fire. When someone is feeling incredibly low and that they’ve essentially done nothing with their life, have lost friends and no close relationships…having an entire blog or forum with dozens of people echoing these sentiments can’t be a good thing.
        And I do believe we have some culpability as people who added to the negativity and enjoyed seeing someone else’s downfall.
        That doesn’t mean we are the first place to assign blame or whatever.

        • AFGHANI'S OYSTER SHACK says:

          This places is less than 1% of Julia’s problem, kind of like a mirror is not an anorexic’s real problem. The real problems are within the person and, oftentimes, those around them. I’m not making light of the issue and I also think that if Julia calmed down a bit and made some life changes, this place might even cease to exist, at least as a forum to talk about Julia. The Boggers give all appearances of being staunchly supportive of Julia’s lifestyle, so this will probably continue for quite a long time, wash/rinse/repeat. If they’re not concerned at all about suicide, why should we be?

      • eyegloss says:

        “Weird Faxes” would be a great screen name.

    • cupcake cray cray says:

      I would feel sorry for her and her family if she ever decided to commit suicide, but I wouldn’t feel any personal responsibility. this is the woman who said that she wanted to be a cult figure, that was all she wanted for a career–she courted the attention, but, when the attention wasn’t the kind of attention she wanted, she didn’t have the sense to just stop puking up the facts of her life on the internet for all to see and comment upon. we would have no idea about jack mccain dumping her, or even jack mccain dating her in the first place, if she didn’t put it out there herself, just like ever other dirty little fact about her life.

      • Sincerely Curious says:

        So if someone who is sick and disturbed says “Hey i’m a big mess and I hate myself and my life. Please punch me in the face a few times,” do you then punch them in the face because they asked for it?

        Someone who is in a bad and destructive place in life frequently does things that are unhealthy for them. I don’t deny that Julia has responsibility for her own actions.

        As do we have responsibility in ours. If we choose to pile on her misery, how can we say that we have absolutely no blame? We are also choosing to participate in this sad little play of hers, rather than leaving her alone to deal with her life, whatever it may be.

        • ShesJustStupid says:

          She’s not mentally ill. She’s a manipulative bitch. Only evidence I need? That “we” re-tweet to Cindy. Case closed.

        • AFGHANI'S OYSTER SHACK says:

          When did she say she hates her life? When did she say she’s a big mess?

          To the contrary, she lectures other people on how to live, she name drops a Senator’s son on an almost daily basis, and she has fauxtoshoots wearing expensive ball gowns.

          I think you’re been reading a different blog than I have…

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            I’m not going to detail all the ways in which Julia seems depressed, but to me she does. She strikes me as someone at low ebb being fed on by a bunch of hyenas.
            I think people here are too smart to really keep doing this forever. I’m not Julia’s publicist, but the stuff written here–although frequently funny and creative–is by it’s very nature incredibly cruel and mean-spirited.
            You should be honest and own that, I think.

          • AFGHANI'S OYSTER SHACK says:

            Wait, so you’re coming here and lecturing us, but you won’t “detail” how she seems depressed? Sorry, but I can’t take you seriously. You’re refusing to attempt an actual argument, in favor of lobbing cliches in our direction.

        • cupcake cray cray says:

          I don’t think your ‘punching sick people in the face’ analogy works in this situation.

          let’s compare and contrast julia with…oh, say tyler clementi. you know, the poor 19 year old kid from rutgers who was cruelly broadcast on the internet while having a homosexual encounter? the one who later committed suicide? tyler was a private citizen who was engaging in a private act in the privacy of a locked dorm room. he didn’t know two assholes, one of them his roommate, had turned on a webcam before leaving the room, so his very private act was broadcast to the entire university and the entire world. the act of broadcasting his encounter was done maliciously, to say “look at this gay guy! isn’t he gross/weird/funny?!” he had no control of his private life being released to the world, and maybe he wasn’t entirely comfortable in his sexuality yet–he was only 19 and a freshman in college, which is when most people get to experiment and grow out from under the watchful eye of parents. he was devastated by the invasion of his privacy, and he committed suicide as a result of this malicious act.

          contrast that with julia, who has been constantly seeking attention since she was a child. the first act that WE are aware of is the whole driving-a-cake-to-the-country-club-on-her-handlebars birthday she threw herself as an 11 (?) year old after her parents forbade her from having a birthday party. I typed a much longer response than this, but then I deleted the rest because I am not interested in recounting ever act of assholery that julia allison has put out on the internet. but the evidence is all there: year after year, julia acts like an asshole, and puts it all on the internet. and, even when she’s told, over and over again, that she’s acting like an asshole (even by the people close to her, as we’ve heard here…didn’t sklar and tim ferriss have a come to jesus talk with her a few years ago? or am I confusing the names?), she never takes it to heart, she never learns, she never tries to change. and now she’s 30, and she still is behaving as the same asshole she was when she was 20. most of us learn from our mistakes in our early 20s and become better adults from them.

          so, no. I don’t think that criticism and parody on this site is bullying. we are not going to her page and leaving our comments (not that she would approve them, anyway), and ‘participating’ in her life. nobody is picketing outside the downtown condo or throwing eggs at her parents’ lakeside house. we are in our own corner of the internet, commenting on the things that julia posts on the internet, and julia can choose to come here or not…and she does come here now and then, which tells me that she enjoys engaging us and she enjoys the attention, because she knows that we’re the biggest ‘fans’ she’s ever going to have. she’s not the first person who wanted to be famous but wasn’t beloved by all. those people all deal with it; so can she. the day that she cleans up her life and decides that posting it all on the internet, putting it all out there for anyone and everyone to see and comment upon, I will be THRILLED that she finally grew up and moved on. but in the mean time, she’s holding herself out as a public figure (see: her facebook page that you can ‘like,’ where she describes herself as a ‘media personality’), and, just like I go on television without pity to talk about what an asshole kent on the amazing race is, I come to rbd to talk about julia allison, the asshole ‘founder’ who blogs on nonsociety and writes the social studies column.

          I will agree that some of the comments on here can sometimes get nasty in a way I’m not always comfortable with, but I think the community as a whole usually self-moderates and chides those who get a little out of hand.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            Great response, thanks for taking the time to write that. Actually changed how I look at this situation.

          • Pancakes with a side of pancakes with a side of cray cray says:


    • Am I okay? No, I am not. (AKA someproblems, Extreme Fail, etc) says:

      You know, I am going to call you out a bit.

      This Brandi woman was a complete fucking mess and addicted to drugs. Julia has a huge money cushion ensuring that shit will never get too real for her.

      Does it make laughing at her ass “the right thing to do”? Probably not. However, I am pretty sure Julia LOVES this attention. People dissect her every move here, which i am certain adds to her sense of entitlement. This, ‘I am being bullied” schtick was to land a McCain (one that I don’t think she really wanted that much).

      I am also certain that the kinds of comments levelled at Brandi in the poker forums were 1000 times meaner than what gets said about Julie over here.

      I find your suggestion that Julie may kill herself one day to be really morbid and clueless. And I am not saying this to defend laughing at our own personal Erica Kane. I say it because it is in poor taste and misses the point of Julie entirely.

      • Sincerely Curious says:

        I think there are far more parallels to Brandi than you think. True, Brandi had drug issues and was not from money. But rich people do kill themselves, you know. Money isn’t a salve for emotional damage.

        Also, I watched the Brandi debacle play out in real time over the course of months, and enjoyed a lot of the spectacle. All of the same crap was spewed on 2+2 before she died. All the same excuses about how she was an attention whore, a thief, that it was an act.

        Like I said, nobody ever thinks these things will happen in advance. Just because the parallels in the cases are not exact doesn’t meant there isn’t some strong similarities.

        And btw, the comments here are brutal. Just as bad as 2+2, for sure.

        • AFGHANI'S OYSTER SHACK says:

          OK, you write too well to be Lasagna, but I am wondering if you’re one of Julia’s “friends” or just a random troll. How/why did you just find RBD today?

          I’m guessing you’re a random, because it doesn’t seem like you really know much about the Julia story.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            Found it through my wife who’s been reading a long time. I have read here and there over the years. Do not know Julia IRL and have no dog in this fight.
            It just struck me today that this is actually similar to what i saw on 2+2 where nobody ever thought that Brandi would do what she did. Again, I know the situations are not 100 percent the same, but hindsight is always 20/20 and all…

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            BTW, I should add that I’ve read enough of the timeline and posts that I am not simply responding to this after reading for ten minutes one day.
            In fact, my wife and I were online the day Julia engaged in a chat with RBS in real time for a few minutes, I even asked some questions. I’m not the newb you’d like to believe I am. Sorry if I have a different opinion than others here.
            Guess I haven’t yet drank the Kool Aid around here. But this place is pretty insular, maybe that’s a problem.

          • Tribune Slingbacks says:

            Maybe if it bothers you so much you shouldn’t read here? Hope that helps!

        • WTF is an amicable heartbreak? says:

          Yeah, I call bullshit on this one. SC found this place because his “wife” reads here. We’ve moved at least twice in the couple of years he’s been hanging around and being “entertained”, so he evidently eats this shit up with a spoon.

          He just happened to be in the infamous chat where he asked some questions of Julia. The odds of someone who doesn’t read here on the daily actually being there at just the right moment AND becoming an active participant are about nil.

          He “enjoyed” gawking at the spectacle of Brandi’s life, so he is apparently obsessed with human trainwrecks.

          So did SC have some sort of epiphany when Brandi died and is now evangelizing to us poor sinners? Or is he just a troll, getting off on the mindfuck?

          I’d say his use of “ad hominem” is the tell. TROLL ALERT!!!

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            Wait, so I’m a troll because I object to simply insulting a person rather than actual discussion about a subject? Sorry, but that’s kind of the opposite of a troll. I suppose I’m trolling in that I came to a place where the culture is one way and tried to talk about why the culture is how it is.
            That I threaten your status quo by discussing it is one thing. But I’m not trolling in terms of attacking any particular poster or trying to insult you as a person the way others have to me.

            So I disagree, I’m not trolling. You just don’t agree with me, which is fine.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            And BTW, I’ve admitted to enjoying this stuff, just like everyone else does. I’m not pretending to be better than anyone else here. I’m really, sincerely asking the question, as hard as that is to believe.

            If you attack my motives it does make it easier for you to ignore my question, doesn’t it?

          • Albie Quirky says:

            That I threaten your status quo by discussing it is one thing.

            You would have to bring a lot more than this weaksauce sensitive-guy bullshit to threaten the status quo here. You’re like an ant thinking he’s disrupting the picnic.

          • Ass Baughers Syndrome says:

            Agree, I’m on here all the time but I rarely frequent chat and if he’s all up in chat then he is far from a casual observer.

        • Lily's 3rd Eye says:

          Your guilt over your behavior with Brandi has nothing to do with RBNS. Perhaps talking to a mental health professional about your own behavior or getting involved in an anti bullying campaign would be more healing to you than lecturing us.

      • Sincerely Curious says:

        Also, the fact that it offends you and you find it “morbid” that I bring up suicide is kind of funny. I mean, maybe you are missing the point here.
        This stuff only seems funny to us because it isn’t affecting our lives. We are reading and laughing about Julia–I’ve laughed at a lot of the stuff written on this blog–and it seems harmless.
        But this is somebody’s life. She may be an idiot, she may be clueless, but that doesn’t mean that we get a free pass and that we shouldn’t consider the implications of this public flogging.

        • Amuse-douche says:

          Go away Julie. We are having a good time over here. Sheesh.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            I know you’re having fun. It can be fun to humiliate and ridicule and shame people.

          • Amuse-douche says:

            If you are Julia, it’s despicable for you to play the suicide card. It’s demeaning to play victim – as if we would all have some revelation if you threatened to hurt yourself – by pretending to be someone else. And if you’re not her? How dare you play armchair psychiatrist and deem someone suicidal. Have you ever suffered from that kind of loss? Who died and made you fucking Freud? If you don’t like this satirical site that pokes fun at the kind of person who cuts you off in traffic, is an asshole to waitresses, who leaves their dog at your house for days on end, then go away. Easy.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            That’s silly. The questions was just a question. Why do I have to have all kinds of ulterior motives for asking a question or having a dialog on this site? And yet most of you, who spend a lot more time here, have no ulterior motives? Just having a laugh is all?

          • Amuse-douche says:

            Suicide, the implications of, and the effects it has on people is not to taking lightly and trivialized. If you think taking it seriously is “silly” then you must be Julia after all, because it takes a major league asshole to be all “poor girl, what if she kills herself?!” and then turn around and call it “silly”. I find it worrisome that you’re concerned. Don’t take it so seriously. It’s just a hobby. Sounds familiar.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            I’m sorry if it seems like I’m trivializing the issue of suicide. Wasn’t my intention at all.

          • Albie Quirky says:

            I know it seems fun to you, Sincerely Curious. It can be fun to be a condescending asshole to people you don’t know, and lecture them as though you were the Dalai Lama. It makes you feel like a really good person, doesn’t it?

            Here’s an idea; if you want to be a good person, stop concern trolling internet strangers and go do something nice for someone who needs help. Feeding a homeless person is actually a much better use of your time than white-knighting a pampered narcissistic Internet laughingstock.

            You’re like a cable news network, in that the trials and tribulations of some middle-class white chick in a miniskirt are the end-all and be-all of CRISIS!

          • Bray for Hay says:

            SC writes too well to be Julia, it’s not that hard to believe that someone would have a crisis of conscience or take issue w/ RBD.

        • Am I okay? No, I am not. (AKA someproblems, Extreme Fail, etc) says:

          You’re an idiot.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            The last resort of someone who has no way to make a valid point is simply to insult. I think you can do better than that.

          • Am I okay? No, I am not. (AKA someproblems, Extreme Fail, etc) says:

            Not at all! Just calling a spade a spade. You have not responded to questions and you really have no idea about the principle character in the drama. You are not worth the effort.

          • Can-Swiss says:

            SC is far too well spoken to be Julia or any of her clan. I don’t think this site should be held responsible for anything. She blogs everything 24-7 and doesn’t need to read here.

            She’s not the first person to be mocked in a public forum. What’s the solution? No more satire? I bet George Bush didn’t like John Stewart’s bullying.

      • Barking Mad says:

        Also, it sounds like Brandi’s bids for attention were part of a breakdown that ended in her suicide. But Julia’s been attention-whoring for years, and most of her antics end without consequences for her, only for those unfortunate enough to be involved with her. She’s an expert at playing other people and making herself the innocent victim. You have fallen for her “poor me” schtick and her pretense of growing self-awareness. The reality is that she knows exactly who and what she is but doesn’t care and doesn’t see the need to change. Maybe someday she will want to change and if that happens she has lots of money for therapy.

        I doubt she would ever really harm herself cause she wouldn’t be able to blog about it and use it to soak up the attention.

        • Sincerely Curious says:

          I don’t doubt that Julia may be manipulative and play the victim card or whatever. I’m not advocating for Julia as a “really good person” or “she’s so nice and look at how mean you’re being to her!”
          I’m saying that regardless of what or who someone is, what this site does is really cruel and nasty.
          The fact that the sole purpose of this site is to mock and humiliate a person that appears to be sort of down on her luck and probably not very stable, is not to anyone’s credit who participates here.
          I think arguments about whether Julia is or is not a nice person or a public figure are essentially straw man arguments.
          The point has nothing to do with that.

          • cupcake cray cray says:

            down on her luck? really? julia allison is down on her luck?

            I’ve been unemployed for two years. I have applied for 361 jobs so far in 2011. my unemployment ran out the last week of march. I am 29 and have to live at home with my parents, because of my situation. I have a car that I cannot really afford, but I live in a place where there is no public transportation so I have to continue to pay the car payment so I can get to the occasional job interview that comes up. I have opted to not date since october of 2009, after the last guy I dated for about three months, who I really liked, said that he thought I wasn’t looking very hard for a job and that I was looking for someone to “take care of” me. dating is difficult enough without worrying about someone thinking you’re looking for a sugar daddy, so that was it for me, until I get a job. gas is now over $4/gallon so I can’t even go out very often to do anything fun, so my ‘social life’ is reduced to dinner once a month with my best friend of 14 years, who is now pregnant and engaged and I feel like our lives are becoming very different, and we seem to struggle now for things to talk about. when I get pms, I get very depressed, and my last two periods have found me hysterically crying and wishing I could just commit suicide, because my life sucks so bad right now, but knowing I could never go through with it because it would devastate my family so much, and I would never want to cause so much pain for them. and, unfortunately, I do have a long-view on life, and I know that it has to eventually get better, so it’s not worth killing myself over right now…even though right now is just awful and depressing. I couldn’t even watch news coverage of the earthquake in japan or the turmoil in the middle east or the the tornadoes in the south, because, with my current sadness over my situation, all I can think of is that the world is a terrible place and what is the point of continuing to stay here when so many bad things happen to people who don’t deserve it? I just cannot deal with it.

            so please, educate me, how is julia allison down on her luck? is it because her boyfriend of a whole six months, who she barely spent any time with, broke up with her? or maybe because her parents subsidize her ‘rent’ in a million-dollar condo, where she lives alone so she can pretend like she’s a grown up? oh, I know, it’s because her vanity column was only picked up by a dozen papers? or because she can go fly off to whatever city she wants on one day’s notice, just because she has imaginary business she’s created for herself there? tell me, how is she down on her luck? I’m genuinely curious.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            I’m sorry to hear about your struggles, Cupcake. Seriously. And I’m not trying to make the comparison between your difficulties and Julias. In her mind, I’m sure this stuff feels really bad to her.
            Sure, you can always say, “well look at her. She’s wealthy and doesn’t have to worry about gas, etc” but we can do that on down the line.
            Oh, at least you’re not paralyzed. What are you complaining about, at least you’re not wheel chair bound?

            People’s lives can feel pretty miserable and empty even when surrounded by wealth and extravagance, I think everyone gets that.

            Again, sorry about your troubles, I hope (and I’m sure) it will improve.

          • JFA - Heroin Starved Rat says:

            Cupcake I feel ya. My life is not easy right now…in ways I won’t even go into but that relate to my career. Hope things get better for you soon.

          • Jacy says:

            Yeah, not getting this “down on her luck” thing. If she’s depressed, about to get fired, feeling suicidal, realizing that she is utterly unloveable — strange, but she’s never once mentioned any of that. It’s all about how fabulous and dynamic her life is. Once a year we get a “boohoo, I am heartbroken” post because once again she’s been completely indiscreet on the Internet. This is her choice. At any point she could have chosen to get offline and deal with whatever morbid depression you are seeing but the rest of us are not. Yet she never does. Because on some level, she likes and feeds off the attention. She loves to share, remember! Not exactly the characteristics of a morbidly depressed person.

          • PancakesAGoGo says:

            Sorry to hear about your troubles Cupcake. I’m just emerging from my 3 years of hell. (It started with a divorce, quickly followed by a series of moves, ramped up with job shake ups and topped off with annoying weight gain, the Crap Special.) But, as I said, I’m emerging: New home, new job, new interest in taking care of myself. It will happen for you too Cupcake. Just remember, it’s times like these that build character.

            Character, something Julia Allison Baugher will never possess.

            Sincerely Curious, I think it’s nice that you are concerned over Julia’s mental health. What you clearly don’t understand is what depression really is: anger turned inward. Julia doesn’t have any feelings that are turned inward.

            She is a narcissist. Period. Narcissists don’t kill themselves. They just make those that reside around them want to kill themselves.

          • Big Sugar says:

            Cupcake Cray Cray — sorry to hear about your hard times. Hang in there. I have awful PMS-related depression too. It’s called PMDD, and I have found the best relief with exercise and acupuncture and Chinese herbs. To find cheaper acupuncture, look for a school — the students are supervised and sessions can be crazy cheap. Best of luck and know you’re not alone.

          • cupcake cray cray says:

            thanks to all for the sympathy. I didn’t mean to get all ‘poor me’ there, because I’m not usually like that (save the week of pms every month), I’m just trying to wade through the shit until I can reach clear water again. I actually had an interviewer tell me last month that I am ‘exceedingly positive’ for what my (professional) situation has been. but the thought of anyone calling julia allison ‘down on her luck’ just really stroked my fires. because, for the most part, I think I am pretty lucky, even for my situation. I am not homeless, I have food to eat, I am healthy, and I have a family that has been exceedingly supportive over the past couple of years. I know things could be a lot worse, which is part of why I’ve not followed through on any dark thoughts–which I didn’t entirely articulate in my previous comment.

            which brings me to the fact that, sincerely curious, you didn’t answer my question of why you see julia as down on her luck. I see ‘down on one’s luck’ as a series of bad things happening to one person. the only thing I see for her is that her relationship ended, a relationship which she’s been saying for months that she wasn’t sure she was cut out for and she had many doubts about. the fact that her column was only picked up by a dozen papers wouldn’t sting for her so much, had she not boasted beforehand that it was going to be syndicated in “over 100+” papers. I doubt her parents subsidizing her lifestyle bothers her much, either, because, if it did, she wouldn’t take their money, she would find a real job and pay for things herself. I am not looking at her and saying “well she’s wealthy, she has no problems.” she’s not wealthy, and god knows she has problems (I will direct you to my comment a few posts ago wherein I said that prince william, for all his money and royalty, is still a real person who had a hard life and has baggage as a result, and is not the perfect man. I do not idealize wealthy people as being without problems). and while her parents may have money, but even they are only upper middle class, and it seems that they couldn’t continue to support her pink shoebox lifestyle in nyc, which is why she came home. she hasn’t done anything, or worked at anything, that she could actually fail at. she ‘founded’ nonsociety and expected that it would just make her money, hand over fist, but there was no ‘there’ there for anyone to have a reason to throw money at her. she keeps trying to make relationships with men with wealthy families happen, but, even those, she gives a half-assed ‘try’ at, but mostly expects them to kowtow to her and just be dazzled by her amazingness, so it’s not surprising that they don’t last. she doesn’t work. she doesn’t try. so how is she down on her luck?

          • cupcake cray cray says:

            christ, that’s about five tl;dr comments I’ve left on this post alone. sorry, catladies! I promise I’ll shut up with the diarrhea of the mouth laptop now.

          • CurlingIronsAtDawn says:

            Cupcake, I’m so sorry. Hang in there. This f’ing recession has to end sometime. Just please remember that people care. It will get better. It has to. Even the depression ended eventually and our grandparents made it through. We will, too.

          • mcakes is tots nots gonna tie the knots says:

            Have you ever heard of /b/? THAT is cruel and nasty. We are baby hamsters — runty ones at that — in comparison. Go tackle some real problems.

          • bitchface says:

            CCC hiring is up, so keeping paws crossed for ya

          • Groolia says:

            I’m in the same situation, Cupcake. I was one of those laid off NYC journalists and have been trying (and failing) to get by on freelance work since nobody is hiring. Not many people seem to be paying freelancers too well these days, though, so…

            It really is adding insult to injury that Julia has gotten any of the opportunities she has in the past couple of years. I know she messes them all up, but when you’ve built up an actual career and still have a hard time getting people to answer your emails, anything a person like her gets (even a lame $10 per run syndicated column) seems morbidly unfair.

          • Pink Palatian says:

            To all the catladies who are struggling… oh, boy, do I feel you! I’m another writer/editor who’s been jobless for 2 years now (as I’ve mentioned before). I apply to an average of 40 jobs a week — as many as for which I am qualified, mostly for which I’m overqualified — and I’ve had less than a dozen interviews in the past two years. And, of course, there’s my fiance who died 16 months ago. I’ve sold everything in my apartment that’s worth anything, and the jewelry/watch I have is constantly in and out of the pawn shop, depending on how much my electric bill is. I don’t get it, either — how some people get the breaks and other people struggle. And I’m not just talking about me, either… there are all you other struggling catladies, and then my best friend, whose daughter died at the hands of a drunk driver three years ago, got a call this week that his grandson (who was in the same accident but survived) had tried to kill himself. This same best friend has also been unemployed for more than a year and has the IRS on his back after his tax accountant fled town, having embezzled the money he’d given her to pay his taxes.

            So, yeah, I also don’t understand how anyone could say Julia is down on her luck. If anything, she gets more than her fair share of things she isn’t entitled to but thinks are her birthright. Breaking up with your boyfriend with whom you’ve spent a total of three weeks — tops — together in the same location? Yeah, well, let me cry you a river. Seriously.

            Hugs to all of you catladies who are hurting financially, emotionally, and spiritually — it’s a tough world out there for a hater! 😉

          • Barking Mad says:

            Hugs for all the catladies that are navigating difficult times. I’ve been through frustrating, perilous periods of unemployment myself even though I worked hard and did well at my jobs. It happens, often to people who deserve it the least.

            Your point is valid. Julia broke up with a short-term man that she didn’t see a future with anyway. Her column, an opportunity she hasn’t earned, is tanking because she can’t be bothered making it into something she could use to build a future.

            CS seems to have discounted my previous comment because I mentioned that Julia has money. Granted money does not solve all your problems, but in Julia’s case it cushions the blows. She does not have to worry about where she’s going to live, or worry about getting a deposit on an apartment now that she is not living with Jack. She does not have to make the column pay for her groceries because she has her trust fund. If she wants to go into therapy, she has parents who will pay for the best treatment available. She doesn’t have to go on a waiting list for some underfunded treatment program.

            So CS it’s true, money doesn’t solve all problems. In fact, it causes some problems of its own. But you cannot tell us that Julia faces the same struggles that the rest of us do. She doesn’t, not by a long shot.

    • WTF is an amicable heartbreak? says:

      If Julia is foolish enough to come here and read what she damn well knows is criticism and snark, that’s her issue. Remember, we are simply reacting to the character of Julia Allison, for whom Julia Baugher writes the script. It is performance art. I know this, because Julia said so.

      A great deal of the comments here are accompanied by recommendations that she seek help from mental health professionals. I guess she blows right by that stuff, because she’s looking for insulting comments about her knees and fingers.

      Brandi had a rotten childhood and left home at 13. She was hooked on a fast-lane lifestyle of drugs, sex, and money (especially other people’s money). She was on a path of self-destruction. Brandi had a very hard life, nothing at all like the entitled spoiled brat pretty pink princess life of Julia.

      • Sincerely Curious says:

        Brandi’s circumstances may have been very different, but the justifications of the 2+2 crowd that publicly humiliated her at every turn were remarkably similar in content to what people are saying here, which essentially boiled down to: “She’s an attention whore who loves reading/hearing about herself regardless of content”
        Whether or not that was even true, I have to think that 2+2 members and the enormous hate threads that bagged on her didn’t exactly help her mental state any.

        • Can-Swiss says:

          If someone banged their head against a wall until they passed out would you blame the wall?

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            If the wall had the ability to think and move, but instead of moving away, decided to stay there because it was funny.
            I don’t think the analogy works because this site is composed of people who have the ability to make decisions and be autonomous.
            In any case, some people here have made good points about why they’re comfortable writing what they do.
            And I want to state again, I’m not putting myself above anyone. I’m definitely just like everyone else and enjoy a lot of the soap opera and humor in these things too.

    • You brayed? says:

      I don’t, and don’t really care to, know the story of the other girl but here is how I feel about Julia’s case. For me, it all goes back to her parents who seem to be very much a part of her life. If they have not seen it fit to stage an intervention by now then people here say or don’t say doesn’t matter. In fact, her parents seem very much supportive and enablers of her lifestyle. Fuck, her mom baked her gluten free brownies for the royal wedding. If they truly thought she was in need of serious help, then they would get her some help. I really don’t think that they are trying to do so and she is refusing it but, who knows, maybe that is the case. And if it is, and I were her parents, I would be reaching out to juliaspublicist and jacy in an honest manner to say that my daughter was seriously ill and in need of help and could you please lay off of her for awhile. I really think they would respect that if this were to happen. But I don’t think it ever has.

      • ICrayAnAwfulLotLately says:

        I believe it vastly overstates anyone’s influence here to suggest there could be a link between this blog and JABa’s actions, whatever form they might take.
        If she reads here to feel bad about herself, it certainly doesn’t translate into reformed behavior on her part; if she reads here to feel bad about herself, I’d say that choice is more of a core issue than anything a comment thread could trigger.
        If she reads here to feel good about herself (which I believe is more likely) then more power to her. You go girl with your righteous indignation. I don’t care … anymore than she should.
        I don’t laugh at the crazy by the way, I act as witness to the calculated fakery, the manipulation, and — public enemy no. 1 in my book — the enablers.
        I call it out because apparently what is crystal clear to me and most of the other commenters on this site, is somehow invisible to her 10s of readers, strategic friends, and immediate family (though Allie, JABa’s sister-in-law had the presence of mind to warn her very darling little mom at an innocent and what should have been unremarkable family breakfast … “she’s going to put this online mom, she’s taping this for her blog”).
        So to me, this place is simply a matter of record and gathering place of some really funny, smart, charming, fascinating people. And, I hope, a living lesson to “all the girls” that this type of ego-driven spectacle, to the point of deluding yourself that you in and of yourself are a “brand”, is a very VERY poor lifestyle choice. You gotta bring more to the table than “look at me!”

      • Sausage Snappers says:


    • Holly O says:

      I’ve responded to specific points about ‘bullying’ but I want to point out that I absolutely refuse to even consider your little scenario, which does nothing but trivialise a tragic and complex issue. I fact, I find your misunderstanding — whether wilful or simply ignorant — offensive.

      (I can only surmise that you’ve had no personal experience with suicide, so let me explain something to you: a person who takes their own life is not ‘driven’ to it any more than they could have been ‘saved’ by others.)

      • Sincerely Curious says:

        I disagree with your premise. I think suicide is always complex and assigning blame is often futile or misguided. That doesn’t mean that nobody and nothing else plays a role.
        I think to the contrary, you trivialize it by pretending that how we treat other people has no bearing on how they see themselves.

        • AFGHANI'S OYSTER SHACK says:

          I think you’re trivializing things, not us. You’re tossing out the possibility of suicide without commenting on the parents’ role or telling us exactly what signs you see of depression in Julia. You’re ignoring those quesitons above. You haven’t listed a single sign of depression, because you say you “don’t want to get into details”. Bad trolling.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            Well just in the post above, from 2009 or whatever, Julia talks about her inability to sleep. The emptiness of constantly trying to reinvent herself, going from job to job, relationship to relationship, etc.
            To me she seems like someone who suffers from some kind of manic depression or depression, but I’m not a doctor.
            Everyone here talks/jokes about her instability, now you all want to pretend she’s just a-ok!
            Which is it?

        • Am I okay? No, I am not. (AKA someproblems, Extreme Fail, etc) says:

          You are a fucking idiot.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            More great points. Keep them coming, you sound like you have a lot of insight.

          • Dr. Gary says:

            Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

    • Orwell-Style CyberPolice Force says:

      Do people with NPD kill themselves? Julia will never be able to admit how empty, pointless and wasted her life is. If she really did, I think she would institutionalize herself. I know I would. But kill herself? Julia loves herself too much and she loves ALL THE GIRLS too much to ever deprive us of her God-graced existence.

      I honestly believe Julia is so delusionally in love with herself that she’ll never do herself harm beyond Buttprint Cleanses and 10-at-a-time cupcakes.

      • Sincerely Curious says:

        Whether she ultimately does something like that is beside the point. The point in asking the question is really trying to get at the heart of your participation in a site with no redeeming value? At best, it’s a little bit of fun at the expense of an idiot who maybe deserves it.
        At worst, it’s contributing to someone else’s psychological pain and instability.

        • Donksers says:

          Good God, man….you’re an attention whore, just like Julia! You are really eating all of this up, aren’t you? Feel free to move on.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            Actually, a lot of the posters here are intelligent and have made good points, and it’s been not that bad of a discussion. Is being just like Julia, the very worst insult I can get around here? 🙂

      • Am I okay? No, I am not. (AKA someproblems, Extreme Fail, etc) says:

        Precisely. Anyone the least bit familiar with The Julia Allison Show knows this.

        His insistence on her potential suicide is SO FUCKED UP.

        • Sincerely Curious says:

          You sure have thin skin for someone who frequents a site that says belittling and humiliating things on a consistent basis. So I’m not allowed to mention the idea of suicide because it’s too sacred a topic for you?
          I’m talking theoretically about the scenario because it calls into question what kind of role this site plays in another human being’s life.
          If that offends you, I’m sorry–but it’s not my job to cater to whatever personal views you have about suicide.
          I’m sorry if you’ve experienced such a loss, and I don’t think I’m somehow belittling that loss by talking about it in this way. These things do happen, people do take their own life.
          Some people who have been publicly ridiculed have also done so. i think it’s a valid comparison even if you differ.

          • Donksers says:

            JULIA ALLISON IS NOT GOING TO COMMIT SUICIDE. Feel better now? Stop being such an ass.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            Thanks Donksers. I do feel better now.

          • Big Head Fraud & the Blondsters says:

            Is it your job to micro-manage people online? How’s that working out for ya? Not so good.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            Nope, not my job to micromanage people online. Is it your job to get upset and freak out because someone comes into your little playground and has a differing opinion? Seriously, it’s ridiculous that me coming in here with this bit of discussion garners so much outrage.
            There’s a few people here who really engaged in a pretty cool conversation about it, and then there are some that just acted like I shit in their pancakes.
            Relax, it was a question and a conversation, I’m not micromanaging your Julia Allison vitriol, go for it my friend.

          • Big Head Fraud & the Blondsters says:

            Upset? Freak out? Outrage? Vitriol?

            Those apply to my questions HOW?
            Literally not at all. Project much, Jr?

            Listen. Do you really think Donkey may hang herself w/ her plastic pelts or shoot herself w/ her tranny make-up gun? Self-asphyxiate by tutu? That she’ll hurtle to her death from the height of a restaurant fixture? Or deliberately OD on a toxic sugar bender?

            Cuz if you do, while you’re definitely a lone wolf here, don’t you personally feel morally obligated to reach out to her handlers, Mom$er & Dad$er, & give them a heads-up?

      • Handbag Stuffed With Hair says:

        No, Orwell, they don’t.

        • Am I okay? No, I am not. (AKA someproblems, Extreme Fail, etc) says:

          5 find this SC person’s fixation on suicide *is* what is weird here… There is NOTHING about JA’s behaviour that suggests suicidal tendencies to me. Not a damn thing. But he insisted on rehashing it for hours.

          Also, what he believes are “cool” and “interesting” conversations are him being condescended to by catladies. What a creep!

          • Am I okay? No, I am not. (AKA someproblems, Extreme Fail, etc) says:

            I, not 5.

          • Handbag Stuffed With Hair says:

            This was a tots weird RBD moment, I agree. The only thing I know for sure is that SC’s game was crooked and squicky.

    • Scooby Don't says:

      I’m sincerely curious how when things are going well in Julia’s life, comments like this never appear. The moment she hits a bump in the road, new people start showing up to lay the blame at the horrible people on RBD for ruining her life. It’s almost as predictable as the post breakup Julia post.
      And for someone who’s not interested in blaming the blame game, you seem to feel very secure in pointing fingers around here.

      • Sincerely Curious says:

        It really is funny because I know if were a regular poster here I would suspect me too. It seems like I must be a friend of Julia’s or some kind of sock puppet, maybe even Julia herself. or maybe her mom!!
        Wouldn’t that only make my points more valid? Look, she already tried to have the site shut down. Obviously it bothers her, even if at the same time she needs it, because it provides her with some degree of fame or notoriety.
        But I’m trying to ask, I think, a more complex ethical question then what you all are giving me credit for.
        Instead of trying to decipher my motives, I think you should really think about the question.

        • Tribune Slingbacks says:

          Oh, so you’re just mansplaining our motives. Cool. Clearly none of us is capable of understanding why we read here.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            I guess you do understand it. I do too, or at least I understand why it can be entertaining but sometimes we lose sight of consequences. At least I know I do. Clearly I’m in the minority here, which is fine…thanks for responding.

        • Ass Baughers Syndrome says:

          Please look up using “then” and “than” … you’ve misused them twice now in your posting.

      • Am I okay? No, I am not. (AKA someproblems, Extreme Fail, etc) says:

        Had the exact same thought. Who is this person? Is it Julie? A hired McCain housekeeper? Greasy??

        • Sincerely Curious says:

          Yeah it must be Greasy. Does that make it easier for you to justify what you’re doing here? I don’t see why who I am matters at all.
          If my points are valid, they’re valid.
          BTW I’ve been simultaneously accused of being Julia, her ex-boyfriend, and someone who just stumbled on the site today. Which is it?

          • Amuse-douche says:

            I don’t know. Why you don’t you tell us?
            BTW your points aren’t valid.
            PS – donkey.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            The truth is, I’m a casual reader of the site who mostly found it funny in a circus spectacle/soap opera way that most here probably do.
            But at times here and there it seems to go too far, and then I thought a bit about Brandi Hawbaker and how similar the comments and things about her were before she killed herself.
            Although you can surely point to the differences between the two people, that’s who I am and why I posted what I posted.
            Really not that complicated, imo.

          • Donksers says:

            Sincerely Curious, since you seem to be crazy passionate about your girl, Julia, perhaps you should sign up to be her next boy. Fun times!

          • JFA - Heroin Starved Rat says:

            And what is “too far” pray tell? Oh please, arbiter of all that is appropriate on the internets, please school us in the delicate art of “making fun of people just enough to please you.” Also maybe you should post your little screeds on every gossip site and snark blog in existence. I don’t see how this is so very different than Dlisted, Gawker, the Superficial, bla bla bla to the end of time.

    • Aggressively Stupid (Does that help?) says:

      Hon, I’m BiPolar so you can’t pull that “you’ll feel so bad if SHE KILLS HERSELF” shit with me. Julia isn’t depressed. She’s been planning this break up post for a week at least. You really believe that a writer who freaks out over a 300 word column every week pulled this out of her ass in one night? No, this took days of perfecting. That’s not depression that’s calculation.
      Depression isn’t just feeling sad because your boyfriend dumped you. It’s a deep mental lethargy that you can’t control. A depressed person wouldn’t write this screed.
      Julia won’t kill herself. She loves herself too much for that.

      • Sincerely Curious says:

        Maybe she isn’t depressed. Whatever she is, it seems like she leads a very unhappy life which probably isn’t helped by what goes on here.

        • ICrayAnAwfulLotLately says:

          I don’t see anywhere that the mission statement of this blog is to help Julia Allison Baugher. Seems like she’s got a battalion of helpers already. I never volunteered for that role.
          Julia Allison Baugher as she exists online personifies and perpetuates pretty much every entitled lazy dishonest vanity that I most detest. I have every right to discuss in this forum how I find her posted actions/behavior offensive to my core values and how divergent those values of mine are from those demonstrated, blogged, tweeted, vimeod by Ms. Baugher.
          The end.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            Haha, I never thought that was the mission statement of this blog. Thanks for responding, I hear you.

          • Sausage Snappers says:

            What cray said. We are commenting on her stupidity, not her skin color or gender or sexuality or anything else she can’t control. Her actions and lack of value system is off-putting and she is being called out for being such a terrible member of our society.

          • Can-Swiss says:

            Well said cray and sausage!

          • eyegloss says:

            that’s why i come here, too. also you guys post great recipes for 7 layer dip.

          • DirtyLakeMichigan says:

            Thank you!!!! She represents all that is wrong. She is a tangible example of what being full of shit REALLY means. And she catalogs it vertically.

        • bitchface says:

          Sincerely Curious,

          You’re probably right. But all she needs to is the laundry list of things that she herself has admitted time and again and look – lather, rinse, repeat.

          1) get some therapy
          2) stick with it
          3) learn how to eat appropriately and stop the obsession with food (see #2 and #1)
          4) be alone/not in a relationship for a while – a good, long while, while working on #1-3
          5) get some stability in her life for her AND FOR HER DOG
          6) find a real career that satisfies her. Julia tried the internet icon thing – didn’t work out so well. Go silent, get offline. The more she fuels the fire the brighter it becomes. She needs to go dark and write in her journal that she keeps under her pillow, not on the internet.
          7) when ready, find a normal, healthy relationship (ie in maybe 4-5 years from now when #1-6 are making progress).

          See, why Julia irks so many of us is not that she’s just keeping an online “diary” of her personal thoughts and we ridicule her just because we’re obese, typeA h8tr meanies. She gets privileges that others would KILL for, and doesn’t know how to be grateful for them. In fact she expects them. She gets chances with people and opportunities over and over and over. It’s human nature to cheer someone on their way up, tear them down until/when they fall, then cheer them during their comeback- look at any fallen/rehabbed celebrity (which Julia herself has admitted too many times to count that she wants that, craves that).

          Sticking with the “we’re not bashing her for posting her online personal blog” but that this is a BUSINESS and she sees herself as a webtard celeb. Thus, she wants us to give her traffic to up her #’s so that sponsors will pay for her opportunities (see above). We have every right to vom-in-the-shower at those sponsors, call them out for supporting this garbage (garbage writing, garbage person) and vote with our wallets. Same thing with the column – this is now forced content that WE pay for (if one subscribes to any the papers that carry her garbage or even read online supporting the ads that pay for her to get paid for writing her drivel).

          I have (unfortunately) known 3 people close to my orbit who have committed suicide – all for very different reasons, different lives and different triggers. So I agree with you that the notion of suicide is not rational, not predictable, and is *always* sad.

          We all agree Julia needs help. Even Julia herself. If she went dark, stopped trying to twist everything around to some weird pink bubble of happiness in which she thinks she views life, then we’d be happy for her and move on. Yet she’s back, time and again, and indignant that some cat-losers on a small site DARE to challenge the crap she puts in our face for paid consumption.

          If she tried to take her own life? I’d feel bad. But I’d also wonder if it wasn’t just more a ploy for attention than a real cry for help. That’s how far along it’s come – all due -IMHO- to her own actions.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            Thanks for the well thought out and reasonable response. Even being Julia’s mother, I have to admit this makes sense 😉

    • Onehundredcats says:

      Do we really need to go down this road? This is not a message board or forum where we directly exchange messages with her (unless she pops in). Plus, many of us don’t directly contact her saying malicious things. This is a community where we discuss many things besides JA.
      To ask if we would feel responsible for her committing suicide is ludicrous IMO.
      like she says – if you don’t like it you are FORBIDDEN to read here.

      • Sincerely Curious says:

        I think your statement here is pretty disingenuous. This is a public forum and blog and there’s some significant overlap with Julia’s life. Some of her acquaintances and maybe even friends or ex-friends have come on here, to the point where all of you suspect any new poster as being just that.

        You can’t have it both ways. This is a community that discusses almost exclusively Julia content or tangentially related stuff.

        So I injected a serious question into the mix. Well boo hoo, isn’t that just incredibly tactless of me? I find it ironic that some of you (not all of you) are so thin-skinned that you bristle at any genuine differences of opinion on this site, yet you insist that Julia and other public personalities should have thicker skins and be able to take any vitriol thrown their way.

        • JFA - Heroin Starved Rat says:

          Okay, well you’ve made your fucking point, about 25 times above ad nauseaum, though not quite clearly at all. We’ve heard you, most of us don’t agree, and frankly it’s boring to read about. So you can leave now!

          We bear no responsibilty for her life or her life decisions. The world is a scary, unfair place, boo fucking hoo. She’s a cuntrag who deserves all the repropation and bad karma that comes her way, because of her own behavior for years and year. If she killed herself, I would think it’s sad, but I wouldn’t take any responsibility, nor lay any blame on anyone here.

          And I don’t agree with you that this site is merely mean-spirited. We have a community here that people come to for many and varied reasons – the humor, good writing, smart opinions over and above Julia herself. So you are wrong that there is only one point in being here, which is to be cruel.

          Can you leave now please? Point made, point taken, point answered, and you are beating a fucking dead horse now and frankly, embarrassing yourself.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            Snap snap! You go girl!

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            BTW, just as you and some others have told me I can stop reading if I so desire, the same applies to you. If this line of conversation is bothersome to you then just skip my stuff and scroll on down. I haven’t posted anywhere but in the small chunk of stuff that has to do with the topic I’m interested in discussion.
            Fortunately, you’re not the hall monitor around here so if I feel like sticking around I just might.

          • Donksers says:

            You know, for just a casual reader, as you proclaim yourself to be, you are really into this whole LEAVE JULIA ALONE thing in a big way. I’m not buying for a second that you’re just a casual reader who sometimes reads this site with his wife. You’re so full of shit.

          • Worrisome Pelts, PhDonk says:

            Hi, SC. Welcome to Casa RB. Please help yourself to the Cheetos and Fresca. Dr. Gary’s mom is making grilled cheese sammiches later.

            The short answer to your original question is: No. The long answer is: Nope.

            If Julia ever defied her NPD pattern and harmed herself, I would feel the way I did when Frasier was canceled: bummed that my favorite show was going away, but aware that the plot had actually run its course long ago.

          • JFA - Heroin Starved Rat says:

            Fine, stick around, but you’re boring the shit out of everyone and making very little sense in the process. Have a great day! 🙂

        • Dr. Gary says:


        • JFA - Heroin Starved Rat says:

          Also I find it just a tad annoying that seemingly EVERYONE is answering your frankly juvenile question, yet you keep asking THE SAME DAMN QUESTION over and over. We got it, we are all evil haters with potential blood all over our hands. Asked and answered, as they say in a courtroom.

    • Sausage Snappers says:

      We would have nothing to say if she didn’t post the details of her private life online. She really feels like she HAS to share these things – she even says that in the PK entry Jacy posted – “I don’t want to write this but I need to.” No, Julia, you don’t.

      • Sincerely Curious says:

        Agreed. And I think in a sense it’s really a question of degree. Some amount of gossiping and goofing around about a person’s eccentricities, stupidities, whatever, is unavoidable in life.

        But it seems to me that this site crosses a line–it’s just my opinion and clearly y’all disagree. I wanted to see what people here would say if I posed the question. Some of it has been as I thought it would be–poor justifications, insulting me for no reason, and generally whining about how stupid I am for daring to talk about such things in this forum.

        And then there were some really good, well thought out comments and some of it definitely impacted how I thought about the situation.

        • Amuse-douche says:

          Cool story, bro.

          • Sincerely Curious says:

            How very 2+2 of you!

          • Donksers says:

            Hey casual reader, why not take your lectures and your pomposity over to one of the Kate Gosselin hate sites. She just might be on the verge of killing herself, and she has eight kids!

        • bitchface says:

          she’s exactly the same (i.e. gross) in real life as she is online, so this is not just some weird social experiment she’s performing or some alter-persona she’s created for public consumption.

          she just seriously, seriously needs heavy duty therapy. I think most of us have stated at one point or another that if she did that and even if she chronicled it (which I hope to God she won’t! but this IS julia allison we’re speaking of here) that we’d be happy for her. But it’s just the same shit, different dude/ different job/ different city/ different drama.

        • Sweden Is A City In... Oh Wait.... says:

          >>Wait, so I’m a troll because I object to simply insulting a person rather than actual discussion about a subject?

          No, you’re a troll because you tried to hijack this thread with about 40 tl;dr posts.

      • bitchface says:

        she can write about – just DON’T PUBLISH IT ON THE INTERNET!!!

    • Sausage Snappers says:

      I’m gonna be honest though and say that if Julia ever did herself in (which I think we pretty much agree won’t happen , but that’s not what the question was), I would feel rotten and wonder I had sometimes taken it too far with my own words. But I would never hold RBNS responsible; we are only commenting on what she puts out there and you cannot blame someone’s menal state on that. We are not the CAUSE of any of her true misery; she fucks up her life plenty all on her own. But I, personally, would feel bad and wish I had known she was hurting that bad. With that said she has never asked us to stop because she was getting suicidal or we were really hurting her feelings. She has only asked us to stop when she wanted to pin blame for losing romantic and monetary opportunities. Really, I think she loves us and knows we are her sole audience and the only reason she has any relevancy whatsoever.

      • bitchface says:

        Now I’m feeling like tots catshit because first thing I would assume was that it was just Julia crying for attention — again. I would expect that if such a thing were to ever happen (and I doubt it will, and certainly do NOT hope it ever gets to that point!) it would be more of a “took 5 sleeping pills and was rushed to the emergency room for a possible suicide attempt” to garner attention.

        Seriously that is how low my opinion of her has sunk. But I still hope she doesn’t wind up in SF. /brokenrecord

        • mcakes is tots nots gonna tie the knots says:

          I said the same thing, bf. About the ‘attention ploy gone wrong’ and about the SF thing. You and me, girls, still sisters from another mister.

    • Albie Quirky says:

      But it’s always seemed more like a TV show, and I can forget this is a real person who is probably not doing very well…

      Because that’s how she set it up. “Lifecasting” my ass. This is her job (insofar as she earns any money).

      Also, I have been living with suicidal depression since I was 3, so don’t bring your bullshit concern trolling to my table. I didn’t try to make my living being an Internet celebrity, and I didn’t manipulate strangers to feel sorry for poor little me–I got the help I needed.

      Momsers and Dadsers would be better advised to pay for some therapy for their daughter rather than a public relations firm. But of course they don’t, because their crap values are part of what has made Donkerina such a public trainwreck.

      • She's a Grifter says:

        how can you say that about the parents? they are MARRIED to eachother still!! she comes from a good home!

  12. Cankles says:

    I bet Dadsers cuts her off over this one. How could she lose a McCain? that was his bragging at the club etc. he is probably furious

    • Worrisome Pelts says:

      He’s still got his very special friend Sen. Mark Kirk. The question is, will he ask for the return of any generous donation sto Mac Daddy his daughter may or may not have demanded he make?

    • Am I okay? No, I am not. (AKA someproblems, Extreme Fail, etc) says:


      Peter is going to be pissed about this one.

      Also, it was the mania around the Royal Wedding + face time that clued Pancakes into the cray.

      He’s been planning this break up for a while now.

    • Dr. Gary says:

      Whilst I’m sure Dad$ers is hella pissed that she blew it with Señor Yack, I’d say he’s even more pissed that she’s clomping on back to the OMG! Downtown Condo. No more *meetings* or *special time* with Raul.

  13. Andy Whorehol says:

    This doesn’t surprise me one bit. This whole relationshit was just one big bragathon of Julia’s that blew up in her face, just like alllll the others. Do you think she would’ve given this guy the time of day had he not come from a wealthy, well-known family?
    The pathetic part of it all is that she’s simply not young, hot and relevant enough anymore to still bag these kinds of high-profile, rich younger guys. She’s probably not crying over Jack so much as she’s crying over losing what was most likely her last chance to snag a guy to set up her trophy wife/golddigger aspirations.

    So Julia honey, I have two words of advice: DATE OLDER. Get a guy who’s at least in his late 40’s and go from there. Guys in their later years will probably think your bullshit is cute and be enamoured with your ridiculousness.
    I’m guessing she’s just not smart enough to gather that an older guy would be a much better match for her. She probably finds them icky and still goes around thinking she’s hot shit who deserves and equally hot younger guys.

    Speaking of hot, Megtard is still looking damn fine these days:

    • Tribune Slingbacks says:

      That dress is amazing. Aww, I miss Pointy.

    • Am I okay? No, I am not. (AKA someproblems, Extreme Fail, etc) says:

      Good for Pointy!

    • Aggressively Stupid (Does that help?) says:

      Awe, Mega! I miss her dumb ass.

      OT: Is that a real fur? Her sister, Julia, would be so disappointed.

    • Little Orphan Lilly says:

      Damn. I’ve never quite gotten the whole hotness thing with her before, but in that dress I DEFINITELY do. She looks fantastic.

    • Dancing With Myself says:

      Wow – she really is beautiful. And she has done something I sorta admire – when she didn’t like the online negativity (bullying!) garnered from her associations with Nonsociety she moved on! So healthy, bunnies!

    • Dr. Gary says:

      I think that’s the best photo I’ve ever seen of Meghan. She looks gorgeous.

      I can’t wait until Meg announces her engagement to some hot, older rich guy. Julie’s wedding invite will be *mysteriously* ‘lost in the mail’. The night of the wedding, Julie will be holed up in her parents OMG! Condo!, twatting ‘how happy’ she is for her ‘BFF/sister’, as she cries and cries and cries and binges on cupcakes.

    • Albie Quirky says:

      That’s a great outfit. And a great pose–a happy smile, not creepy fetish-clowning with pastry. LEARN FROM HER EXAMPLE.

    • Albie Quirky says:

      Guys in their later years will probably think your bullshit is cute and be enamoured with your ridiculousness.

      Only truly creepy assholes who fetishize relative youth in their partners to the point where lack of sense and maturity and compassion and emotional connection with others are secondary considerations.

      And then, of course, when she hit her Trophy Wife Expiration Date of 40, he’d dump her for a younger version anyway.

      But speaking of creepy assholes, you know who is perfect for Donkerina? Eric Schaeffer. They have so much in common, from pretending not to be Jewish to pretending to be celebrities to truly bizarre disordered eating patterns.

    • I don't believe in meds. says:

      In that photo Megtard looks like Angelina Jolie with a nasty Whitney Houston-level crack addiction. That is not a compliment. Ewww.

  14. Orwell-Style CyberPolice Force says:

    She’s really been on a roll with these younger dudes. Toph Eggers, Prom King, Pancakes McCain.

    Go date someone your own age, Julia, and leave the 25 year olds to Pabst and Arcade Fire concerts.

    She’s insane enough to believe she can change a 25 year old douche to wanting to settle down and make babies (because she’s OMG expiring as we speak). She really believes she’s that fabulous, that worthwhile.

    I would not in a million years at 25 think I could find another 25 year old to marry me. Sure there are the few mature young dudes out there, but few and far between and I wouldn’t be delusional enough to think I could make them settle down before they’re really ready.

    • juliaspublicist cried his rhinestone off juliaspublicist says:

      She can’t date someone her own age because someone her own age would see through the psychotic bullshit immediately.

      • Albie Quirky says:

        She’s fucked, because all the good olds looking for hot arm candy can find girls infinitely less annoying. She will end up with a sad divorced CPA-turned-CFO who’ll settle for her because he can’t find a real trophy wife.

    • Canklehausen by Proxy says:

      I drank PBR all last night and went to an Arcade Fire concert last week!

      /looks around for 25 y o piece of ass

  15. The Cabinet of Dr. Bobby says:

    Looks like we’re getting concern trolled. I think SC has fallen for JA’s sympathy ploys.

    • Fashion Girl says:

      I think “Sincerely Concerned” may be a cousin of “Sincerely Curious”, as in “I am sincerely curious about why men still rape women/why poor people eat sugar/etc.”

      • Fashion Girl says:

        Um er oops – I am confused. I thought that the poster above was “Sincerely Concerned”, not “Sincerely Curious”. Mind = addled. Moving along…

        • Am I okay? No, I am not. (AKA someproblems, Extreme Fail, etc) says:

          Seriously Sincerely Truly Concerned Worried Even is totally cracking me up.

          • Scooby Don't says:

            But he’s educating us on seriously ethical issues.
            And I know since this is an important issue for Saint Curious he’s got a full day ahead of him, visiting all the anti Kate Gosselin sites, Dlisted, Perez Hilton, TMZ etc etc to explain to them the error of their ways as well. I feel Redeemed by Him and hope to be as pure in my future thoughts as He is, the One who never thinks or utters a critical word of anyone.

      • HipsterLawyerGrifter says:

        Genuinely curious about the wealth distribution gap, I think it was…

    • --EVER-- says:


  16. here's the thing says:

    Oh, Julia. Here we go again. She’s such a terrible gold digger. Part of being a gold digger is living by THEIR rules. She doesn’t get that part, which is why she fails at it so miserably. She’s lucky to have landed a McCain; the McCain doesn’t need Julie.

    I would feel bad for her if I felt that Julia genuinely wanted a relationship, but what she wants is a wallet and a wedding. All these relationships have gone south once reality sets in. Of all her dudes, PK was the best match for her: he was just as cheesy, and I do think he genuinely liked her. But, she insists on being a demanding-ass annoying diva and she done fucked that up.

    AGAIN, JULIA: Therapy, no Internet, do some real honest-to-god work, and a little sprinkling of Prozac on top. GET ON IT.

    • Orwell-Style CyberPolice Force says:

      “Part of being a gold digger is living by THEIR rules. She doesn’t get that part, which is why she fails at it so miserably.”

      Seriously. It’s all part of the crazy NPD. They’re lucky to be with HER, even if they are providing her with shelter, money, etc. So they need to play by HER rules cause she’s the pretty pretty princess.

      She’s such a fail at golddigging. Geez.

    • Am I okay? No, I am not. (AKA someproblems, Extreme Fail, etc) says:

      This latest gold digging fail is pretty epic. She just moved in with him, rent free and now she’s bounced. Homeless again!

      But i really think her heart was only half in this grift. Same as Prop Thing. Something is wrong with Pancakes that even she can’t look past.

      For the right woman i am sure he is fine, but not Julie. And i think she knew this. She did not want this to fail for the humiliation/homelessness factor.

      She lives on a URL anyway, so it doesn’t really make a difference.

      • Julia's Too Small Tutu says:

        The catch was his service to his country which got in the way of her Princess Fantasy. The fact is, the best McCain for Julia is Megatits and she doesn’t go that way.

  17. bitchface says:

    catlets – I am so depressed I cannot even eat pancakes with a side of pancakes today. You know this means she is going to now move to San Francisco.


    PS Her post doesn’t make any sense. Her column absolutely 1000000% does not require her to: a) be present at any particular location; b) travel; c) be done from a specific time zone. So HIS “career” (and I love she slipped in that he might not even stay in the military? A McCain bomb? Really Julia? You DON”T get politics & would suck at being a politician’s wife fo’sure) would nix her career? HUH? She can write from her stupid, lifeless, trite column from GUAM.

    Fuckin’ a; she’s coming to my city. LIFE SUCKS!

    • Holly O says:

      Hey San Francisco?


      • bitchface says:

        lol EWWWW

        But also what about this “TV SHOW” in Chicago she’s been working on? That would require a physical presence.


        • Albie Quirky says:

          My guess is that by “tv show” she means “the weird little three-minute segments that Tribune Media makes regular columnists do.” All my friends who have written for the Trib hated that; I bet Donkerina begged to be part of it.

        • Pink Palatian says:

          Um, don’t want her in Chicago, either. (It’s time to play Hot Potato Julia…)

    • nosrsly says:

      By “career” I’m pretty sure she means bouncing between cities trying to get photographed with people she deems important. Internet personality, bunnies!

    • Pancakes with a side of pancakes with a side of cray cray says:

      you rang?

    • Julia's Too Small Tutu says:

      San Francisco is one of the most expensive cities in the US, how is she going to swing living there without a guy allowing her to squat at his place?

      • Donksers says:

        Not a problem. Mommy and Daddy will take care of it. Mommy and Daddy have always taken care of everything for Julia, and that’s why she’s the abnormal, emotionally unhealthy Julia she is today.

      • Mini Driver, Intergalactic Bully says:

        If only she knew someone in the greater Bay Area who was looking for both a roommate and someone to date!

  18. Orwell-Style CyberPolice Force says:

    Does anyone else think Julia’s real plan is basically just waiting for her inheritance, and she’s killing time meanwhile?

    I have a long-time acquaintance who is basically doing just that. His parents are by no means loaded, but his career as an actor never took off and he’s uninterested in getting a real job. He’s basically confessed that his very elderly parents are going to die soon and that he plans to live off what they leave him, which won’t be a huge amount, but can last decades if not a lifetime with very frugal management. I think this is incredibly common. Another friend of mine decided not to bother with college after his father died and left him enough money to basically live without working for a long time.

    It’s interesting what kills ambition in some people.

    I really think that’s what Julia is resorting to at this point, since marriage to a rich hottie like she deserves is quickly becoming an impossibility. Old nutty granny will die first and leave her a chunk, then Mom and Dad.

    • Amuse-douche says:

      Possibly. She’s calculating enough and lazy to boot. Here’s to health and long life, Baughers!

    • Can-Swiss says:

      A friend of a friend is doing the same. His rich father gives him a 60K a year salary for doing nothing. He’s almost 30 and never had a real job and never even went to school.

      The family has enough cash that he will never need to work. I just find it so frustrating because I’ve had to work very hard to get where I am today, doing something I love for a living. This guy (and Julia) get every opportunity and yet do nothing good or of value. The guy pretty much plays xbox all day.

      It also shows you that people like this guy’s family and Dadsers aren’t doing their kids any favors by giving them the silver spoon treatment.


      Yet another reason to bring back the Estate Tax!

  19. The Manta says:

    Randi has two crying babies to look after in SF now. Mr Randi must be thrilled.

    • bitchface says:

      lol – seriously…

      I have the Cee Lo song in my head now. “I pity the fooooool, who falls in love with you (oh shit she’s a gold digger….)”

      Actually, what’s with her trying lately to make the males in the relationship sound strong and true? Jackie boy has something off with him too for telling him he loved her so soon into the relationship, talking marriage and stuff that fast, and begging her to “come home” from her trip? She made PromKing sound like the better party too. Knowing Julia, it’s all calculated. They must have told her “GTFO NOW PSYCHO”. And she’s spinning? or? I got nothing.

      PS Who’d stay in Coronado for a few days after breaking up with someone? I’d be on the first plane OUTTA there

      • Am I okay? No, I am not. (AKA someproblems, Extreme Fail, etc) says:

        Something is definitely off with Pancakes. This whole story is totally off. Who gets dumped one day, cries the whole night, then BBQs with the family that afternoon!?

        Especially for one who claims to be so sensitive as Julie does.

        No way the bust-up happened on Friday. No way should could have written that screed in less than 24 hours. Unless writing the Carrie Bradshaw break-up blog post is all she’s really good at and she just knocks those off like nothing (probably).

        • --EVER-- says:

          There was a theory she was his beard. Maybe it’s true. They never looked in love or in lust in photos together. Nothing ever indicated they were doing it. Now, a break up, with a cut-and-paste blog announcement borrowed from her last breakup. Maybe the whole thing was an arrangement she entered into to help Jack & the ladies of the family throw Papa John off the lavender scent?

    • juliaspublicist cried his rhinestone off juliaspublicist says:

      I guarantee you that now that Randi is a parent, she will be slowly pulling herself out of this shit show because Julia’s priorities will just look silly to her.

  20. Tremendous Liar; Donkey of Repugnance says:

    Julia is just passing through the stages of Donkey grief. The next stage is blaming her haters for causing her breakup and starting yet another abortive attempt to send us all legal threats.

    • Aggressively Stupid (Does that help?) says:

      I can’t wait for my favorite stage: reliving the “good times” by posting conversations and pictures that the bf would find embarrassing.

      Let It Unravel!

    • --EVER-- says:

      Don’t forget the stage where her “friends” leak embarrassing photos and info about the dude who dumped her!

      • Tribune Slingbacks says:

        It’s too bad we already know who he is. It would have been so epic if she’d only revealed that Codename Top Gun or whatever was omg Jack McCain after the breakup.

    • Jacy "Donk" LaRue Jacy "Donk" LaRue says:

      You see, that’s the thing she actually doesn’t do. She lays off blaming the haters when she’s been dumped, and instead views us as a tool in which she can seek/wreak revenge. It’s right during this period when the identities of the Codenames TK and PK got leaked to us, for example.

      She tries to shut us down and starts all the anonymous e-mail threats — hi Morning Muffin!!! — when she’s got a new piece and she doesn’t want him finding out what she’s all about by stumbling upon this blog. It never fails — the harassment always starts up when she’s met someone she views as a catch. Harvard Harley, Greasy, Pancakes — we started getting regularly flamed during those courtships. When the fuckers wise up and dump her, then she tries to use us to her advantage.


  21. Donksers says:

    I love this post of hers from three days ago:

    “These are the guys who train right outside – just a few hundred feet – from where Jack and I live in Coronado.”

    Nice try, Julesie, nice try.


      She really went out with guns a’blazin’… “Jack and I”, “myself and Jack”, “my boyfriend Jack”, ad nauseum. STFU, Donkey.

  22. The Manta says:

    Somewhere in America, Megatits is air punching repeatedly….

  23. JFA - Heroin Starved Rat says:

    I love this post! “She has cried and cried and cried and cried some more!” LOL! That was my favorite part of her recent idiot-screed. What a great writer she is.

  24. JFA - Heroin Starved Rat says:

    “It embarrasses me to write in a public forum that my response to a breakup at the age of 29 is almost identical to my response to a breakup at the age of 16. How is that possible?? Does this not get any easier??”

    One of the more self-aware things I’ve ever seen her write. It SHOULD embarrass you, ass. Get help. Get a job. Get a life with some structure. Because this juvenile overwrought bullshit is really getting painful to watch.

  25. Worrisome Pelts, PhDonk says:

    via Twitter:

    CindyM1: I have a plumber here for Mothers Day. Nothing like a backed up sink!
    1 hour ago.

    Well, I guess Donk didn’t vomit in the shower this time.

  26. Dr. Gary says:

    You think this is the last thing Julie will see as she leaves the Coronado Condo for the last time?


  27. The Manta says:

    From her break up essay:
    “Because I loved the future we had planned out together – the adventures we were going to have together.”

    Future they had planned out together – except the next three years in Guam?

    • Worrisome Pelts, PhDonk says:

      The future where he spent 3 years in Guam while she “stimulated the economy” by spending his share of the trust on Pottery Barn Teen furniture, illicit sugar and Kentucky Derby froques designed for color-blind toddlers..

  28. Sausage Snappers says:


    You just can’t make this shit up. Julia probably getting dumped over the phone after Flapjack had a mother-son heart-to-heart. Her cowering back to San Diego, donkey tail between her legs, to pick up her poor dog that had been thoughtlessly left for WEEKS with someone she barely knew, on a weekend where Mama Bear McCain made sure to be there for supervision of the moving out and probable craycray donkey antics.

    Best Julia breakup ever.

    • Worrisome Pelts, PhDonk says:

      Bonus: Longjohns-with-a-Flap-in-the-back Jack will be able to put off commitment for as long as he wants in any future relationship by playing the “gun shy after a particularly crazy ex” card.

      Mazel tov, JSM IV.

  29. The Manta says:

    So… how long till Jack is engaged to some 22 year old blonde neocon from a sunbelt state who would love fore nothing more than to go for mani-pedis with Cindy while waiting for the Guam stint to be over?

    • Tribune Slingbacks says:

      3 months.

      • Donksers says:

        Yes, but understand that Julia has been in a 6-month relationship with Jack where she was actually with him maybe a dozen times, so SHE has the deepest connection to him that any woman will ever have, including his future wife!

        • Albie Quirky says:

          It isn’t even 6 months, is it? My timeline is vague, but isn’t it more like 5 months?

          • cupcake cray cray says:

            jack was officially announced as boyfriend on january 1st, I believe. she said in her blog comments that he first texted her on november 28th, and she visited him in pensacola and he visited her in chicago in mid-december. so, really five months…give or take a couple of weeks, if we go off the date of that first text (which you know she absolutely does).

  30. Dr. Gary says:

    Does Julie write her blergh post comments herself? ‘Cause for fuck’s sake, what a bunch of cliched b.s.:

    by George G Smith Jr
    “I wrote like 17 comments. Erased them all. There’s nothing one can say at a time like this. Just that I hope all is well. Take care of yourself..”

    by elizabethallegrezza
    “you know julia…maybe i am not supposed to say this because it is cliche or sometimes seemingly untrue…but in my humble opinion, love. conquers. all.

    don’t be afraid to fight for what you want. don’t over rationalize. don’t plan pain. even if it seems unlikely, silly and impossible…if you can’t act crazy for love what can you act crazy for?”

    by freddie26
    “Oh, Julia, I’m so sorry. I know there’s nothing anyone can say right now. Just please remember: and this too shall pass….”

    • ICrayAnAwfulLotLately says:

      Dear lord, the melodrama!
      You’d think her firstborn was struck down by a drunk driver, condition critical. But no, she’s a 30 year old and things didn’t work out with some guy she dated long-distance for a handful of months.
      I can never the donkey.

    • New Year New You says:

      “Love conquers all! This too shall pass!”

      Your “wisdom” will not be conquering anything and your stupidity will not pass.

      • Albie Quirky says:

        I can only hope that elizabethallegrezza is a mean person trying to inspire some stalkery antics a la the diaper-driving astronaut.

        The thing is that Donks didn’t seem to actually like Jack, so it’s not going to fly.

    • Pelt-A-Porter says:

      Ugh sadly that George one is real and surprisingly in a relationship with a really great girl

  31. The Cabinet of Dr. Bobby says:

    From her POV, I’m surprised she’s making such a big deal out of it.

    He’s not that cute.
    He’s not inheriting a lot of money, if the rumors are true.
    His dad is the laughingstock of the US political scene.
    Despite being wealthy, the McCains aren’t an entree to the sort of social circle JA imagines herself as deserving.

    So what exactly did she “lose”? Besides the famous name. Is that really all she’s about?

    • bitchface says:

      So what exactly did she “lose”? Besides the famous name. Is that really all she’s about?

      -FU money so she can “dabble” in “projects” without having to actually work
      -social standing
      -bragging rights
      -everyone’s envy
      -making Page6/gossip columns
      -Carrie Bradshaw’s life

      • Albie Quirky says:

        Here’s the sad thing, marrying Jack wouldn’t have given her any of those. Except “access”–to creepy old white fascists, which she already has via Dadser’s very good heterosexual friend Mark Kirk.

    • Aggressively Stupid (Does that help?) says:

      Honestly, I think, as with PromKing, her “heart break” has more to do with her being dumped by him then any genuine feelings on her part. In her mind she was settling for this short not-so-attractive kid because he has a famous dad and then he up and dumps her! That’s not how the plan was supposed to play out.

      • cupcake cray cray says:

        bingo. in both cases, she thought she was the catch and he was lucky to ‘get’ her. when he decided he didn’t want her anymore, it was a major blow to her ego.

      • Blinky, Fat, Flapping Fuck - I'm Boycotting Sweden! says:

        Some years ago, I was dumped by guy who was inferior to me. I was stunned and I think that my tears were more about being dumped than by love. I moped for a month, then met someone younger and hotter. The ex found out and I learned that he wasn’t happy. And I realized what an asshat he is.

    • Blinky, Fat, Flapping Fuck - I'm Boycotting Sweden! says:

      She lost out on getting married in the near future. Now she’s 30 and has no prospects in sight.

  32. Tribune 6 says:




    Yes, I write in all caps because someone close to me used to use the “I am going to hurt myself to get attention” crap.


    Also: When will Donkey tweet before they were broken up?

    Sorry, I can’t. Especially for a woman who CRAVES the spotlight.

    PS – All public figures get criticism. It’s called free speech.

  33. Records Custodian says:

    She is simply and utterly unstable.

    Look how many failed relationships in the last three years. How many lost jobs/opportunities/business partners. How many “like a sister” friends she has lost. How many places she’s called “home.”

    No reasonable person – be it a potential friend, boyfriend, employer – would consider her stable. No reasonable person would make a long-term investment in or commitment to her. And most jaw-dropping is the fact that her family seems to encourage and celebrate her instability.

    If she wasn’t such a cunty, manipulative person, it would be

  34. Jack the Bulldog says:

    Stating the obvious but … why didn’t anyone suggest to Sincerely Curious that he speak with his wife about her overinvestment in RBD instead of asking commenters how we’d feel if Julia Allison committed suicide? That is, if his just happening to be on here when Julie happened to pop in wasn’t standard operational bullshit.

    • JFA - Heroin Starved Rat says:

      Ha! Exactly. Go ask your damn wifey. Jeez.

    • Tribune 6 says:

      Good point. I wonder if Cindy forbade Donkey from tweeting about the break-up? Amazed she has not tweeted “Woe is me! Woe, woe is me!!!”

      • Blinky, Fat, Flapping Fuck - I'm Boycotting Sweden! says:

        I don’t think Cindy has any power over her now.

    • Albie Quirky says:

      That wouldn’t give him a chance to be the Gandhi of Passive Aggression. But hey, I know it feels good to be a condescending asshat on the Internet!

    • ICrayAnAwfulLotLately says:

      I think SC should probably be more concerned about JABa’s lack of discretion, tweeting her constant whereabouts, flight schedules, the location and interior of her family’s and other people’s homes. She’s got how many crazed fanboys on her soft-porn FB page? Those are the people I’d advise SC to fret about, not us.

    • Big Head Fraud & the Blondsters says:

      Notice how SC’s spurt of RBD-posting coincides w/ Donkey’s self-imposed weening of posting on those other three platforms? No way she can go offline entirely, & no way can she be online & be quiet, so it only makes sense she’d troll RBD for some kind of interaction.

      • Care Bear Stare (Pelt-a-Polozza) says:

        Bingo! You’re good!

      • Amuse-douche says:


      • I don't believe in meds. says:

        Tots. “Hey guise I realize my typical reaction to getting dumped on the Julia show is getting boring. How would y’all feel if I mixed it up a bit? Threw in a cry-for-help accidental overdose? Would you be turned off? Don’t wanna lose my audience. Thanks bunnies!”

    • Am I okay? No, I am not. (AKA someproblems, Extreme Fail, etc) says:

      Something is off with SC. The morbid insistence on suicide was really something.

      And the hours long concern troll.

      Yes people can and do come here and express different opinions, but then they leave within the hour. He was at this for a loooooooong time.

  35. Armchair Donkologist says:

    Honestly, she might be the most immature female on the planet. When she was in high school she was acting out like a maladjusted child with ADHD. In college it seems like she acted like a 13 y/o coming to terms with her hormones. Her early to mid-20s were very typical bitchy teenage suburban mean girl run amok. Now she’s 30, and she’s acting like a 22 y/0 about to graduate college, freaking out about relationships and her career, not knowing where she wants to live, etc. I think her mental disadvantage coupled with her actual age (and regular access to money) is really the root of all her many, many problems.

    • mcakes is tots nots guamanic depressive says:

      What’s that you say? Arrested Development?

      I have to say, I am going to miss Motherboy. 🙁

      • Donksers says:

        All those fantastic Motherboy comments and pics…best part of the whole Julia/Jack relationshit!

        • Ass Baughers Syndrome says:

          Yes, Yes, Yes! I had never seen it and when the comments started rolling in, checked it out on Youtube — beyond funny. Who started this one or was it just collective consciousness?

  36. Albie Quirky says:

    The other thing about Donkerina is that she isn’t just addicted to this toxic nonsense–she’s an active pusher of it. Remember her dating/sex/not-sex column? She’d still be dispensing this bullshit to ALL THE GIRLS if her lack of talent and motivation hadn’t gotten her canned.

    If it were just that she was hooked on a super-shallow narrative about relationships and gender, I might feel sad for her. Her wanting to be a major dealer of the poison makes the situation a bit different. It is not for lack of ambition that she doesn’t influence people’s lives as much as Oprah or even Candace Bushnell.

    (Sorry to repost, but I meant this to go here as a response to Curiously Sincere Passive-Aggressive Breath Mint, but I am today.)

  37. Orwell-Style CyberPolice Force says:

    Actually, to build on what Armchair Donkologist mentioned about ADHD… does anyone think Julia has adult ADHD? She acts out in a lot of ways a friend of mine who has ADHD has… an inability to stay put in one place (this friend flies about the country like Julia), the uncontrollable impulse to reveal things about herself and others as well as saying insensitive things, etc.

    Some other symptoms listed from some website:

    controlling impulses if you:

    – frequently interrupt others or talk over them
    – have poor self-control
    – blurt out thoughts that are rude or inappropriate without thinking
    – have addictive tendencies
    – act recklessly or spontaneously without regard for consequences
    – have trouble behaving in socially appropriate ways (such as sitting still during a long meeting)

    Fits Julie PERFECTLY.

    • Effing Ineffably Un-Effable says:

      Julie’s a Tumi warehouse of baggage.

      We see in her our own issues or those we’ve dealt with most directly in our lives.

      The best bet for Julia who absolutely never reads here, especially since she’s done with the internet, is to ACTUALLY LOG OFF and SEEK THERAPY.

      There is absolutely nothing wrong with doing it and it would begin a process of her being able to start coming to terms with things that perpetuate a cycle of unhappiness in her life.

  38. Tribune 6 says:

    I suggest we all go back and read Media Bistro’s “Becoming Julia Allison” to understand how long Julia’s cultivating of the media has been going on.

    This is not someone who is a one season wonder. She’s a Hall of Fame Fameball. Season after season, she’s dating, breaking up, dating, etc. She recounts to the reporter for mediabistro her 2007 dalliances and, I’m sorry, I don’t recall and long, woe-is-me, overwrought tripe written about Milo, the Peter Nygard, or Harold Ford.

    The recent relationship woe-is-me are more over the top b’cause, as she fades from mainstream view, she needs to create whatever drama she can to keep the viewers interested.

  39. ShesJustStupid says:

    Here’s something odd: Cindy tweeted that she got phone calls from all four of her kids today. She’s in Coranado. Why would Pancakes have to call?

    • Worrisome Pelts, PhDonk says:

      She owns more than one property in Coronado, so she may not be staying with the mutually heartbroken [wtf?] couple. Or she’s just condensing the message for Twitter and means that she got MD wishes from all kids. It would be funny if Jack-in-the-Copter is laying low somewhere while Donk clears out though.

      • Big Head Fraud & the Blondsters says:

        Jack-in-the-copter made me lol.
        Guess he ain’t Jack-in-the-Donkey’s-Box…

  40. bitchface says:

    Gawd, what a week!

    First the ROYAL WEDDING. Becks in a pippy longstocking tux + Hot Prince Ging. *swoon*
    Then Osama bin dead for a while now after POTUS disses Trump in the biggest pwn’ed.
    Our patent got accepted (6 years after filing it).
    The US economy shored up 222k jobs this quarter.
    Then the love affair of the century on THIS side of the pond, our own William and Catherine-the-Great, break up! Oh Noes!!!

    Has ever such a mere 7 days been so full of high-highs, lowest of the lows? I’m tots exhausted. Where is the cat-fainting couch??

    • Big Head Fraud & the Blondsters says:

      I wanna hear more about your patent …
      (been watching The Shark Tank 🙂 )

      • bitchface says:

        in the broad sweep of social networking

        hopefully we can sue Fakebook for infringement 😉 (just kidding, never want to face that particular army of lawyers)

    • Handbag Stuffed With Hair says:

      Damn, congratulations to you and your team on the patent, bitchface!

  41. Donksers says:

    I think Julia wants to make it look like she’s so busy crying and crying and crying that she doesn’t even have time to blog or tweet. She must be monitoring it fairly closely, though, because someone is letting all those “YOU ARE SO BRAVE” comments go through. It will never cease to amaze me how many people confuse narcissism with bravery. “Thank you for being brave and putting your raw self out there.” Oh gag.

    • Care Bear Stare (Pelt-a-Polozza) says:

      Ha, good point! LOL.

      P.S. She’s approving her comments as fast as she can type them!

  42. Brianna says:


    Just an update – I picked up my ride packet this week! Thank you SO MUCH to all the catladies who helped me get this far – my bike is in for a tuneup right now, and I completed my fastest 50 miles EVER this weekend, so I’m feeling good and excited about the ride this coming weekend!

    Also, my catfriend decided to fly down and build up my other bike and then drive to the overnight site, and he paid for a hotel for the evening so I’d have my best sleep for the second day! I will be taking pictures day-of, I’ll post the link once they’re all uploaded.

  43. LetItExplode says:

    Can we please refer to this as The McBreak-Up from now on? It’s getting hard to keep this shit straight.

  44. I’ll be impressed if she makes proper use of the word ‘myriad’ in her suicide note.

    • bitchface says:


    • Am I okay? No, I am not. (AKA someproblems, Extreme Fail, etc) says:

      This is a very apt comment!

      SC’s morbid insistence on Julie’s possible upcoming suicide made be think he has a bit of the Jason Dean in him… Or that’s where my sad little mind went anyway.

      • Big Head Fraud & the Blondsters says:

        His tenacious fixation on such a morbid subject gave me shades of what’s-his-wig creepycrawlies.

        • Jacy "Donk" LaRue Jacy "Donk" LaRue says:

          I am not sure it was her because the IP was somewhere in Massachusetts — could have been a proxy, I guess — but it had to be someone close to her. She’s been offline but really isn’t offline because she’s obsessively posting the “my thoughts are with you during this terrible, terrible time” comments, if she’s not writing them herself. And it is totally something she would do — float the suggestion that she might off herself because of RBD because she is a demented drama queen who cannot bear to be mocked and will do almost anything for across-the-board public adoration and sympathy.

          And that above all else is what she needs to explore with a shrink. Why does she “love to share” the intimate details of her personal life with complete strangers on the Internet? Why does she need validation or to be envied by complete strangers? Why has she not figured out that this pathological compulsion is what has brought so much misery and unhappiness to her life? What? Is wrong with her? Why can’t she just log the fuck off?

          • Am I okay? No, I am not. (AKA someproblems, Extreme Fail, etc) says:

            It’s SUPER WEIRD!

            My man has no internet presence at all, and i am forbidden discussing him, posting pictures of him, etc. I love him and want him to love me back, so this is really easy to do.

            People don’t overshare online because of how it makes OTHER people feel.

            She cannot really acknowledge the feelings of others really, which is a huge part of her issue.

            NPD, bunnies!

          • Jacy "Donk" LaRue Jacy "Donk" LaRue says:

            I know. I have been with my man for two years and I don’t even post photos of us on Facebook together. Nor do I ever refer to him by name in anything I write online, or even mention him very often in any veiled way. It is bizarre that she cannot figure this out.

          • Tribune 6 says:

            It’s damn bullshit that SC comes on when she’s breaking up with P’cakes. Where the fuck was this person when she was, in her mind, flying high? Fuck’em.

          • JuLIAR Allison says:

            Tots agree Jacy. I don’t understand her desperate need to mine her pain and make us all party to it.

            See: “I wish I could show you how I’m feeling.”
            “I don’t want to write it not because it doesn’t need to be written – it does – but because I would rather take an Ambien”

            No, Donkey, your post-breakup wah does not need to be written. You want to write it – that’s very different and you need to assess if this is a healthy thing.

            Is she OK? No, she is not.

        • Big Head Fraud & the Blondsters says:

          Afghani recently mentioned where what’s-his-wig lives, but damned if I recall …

          This would be very Julia-like though — she wants some ammo to pull out of her raft-ass next time she has an audience for her being-bullied chronicles. Something that she can forever tie to the name-dropping event of having dated a famous surname. She probably suspects that Mrs. Nutterworth reads here & wants to make her feel regret in forcing FlapJack’s cute & tiny t-rex hand.

          • Afghani's Amazing Oyster & Champagne Shack says:

            LWK moved to the Philadelphia area.

            Massachusetts could be Emily Rose? She lives right outside Boston. I forget which suburb.

          • itsjustme says:

            Brit n’ Ali are in Mass.

          • Afghani's Amazing Oyster & Champagne Shack says:

            Brit and Allie would be Cambridge, Emily Rose would be Alston, I think? Where in Mass is this IP from, Jacy?

  45. Jacy "Donk" LaRue Jacy "Donk" LaRue says:

    So I just read the New Yorker piece on The Pioneer Woman and whaddya know? She’s got a hate site! And a hate Twitter!

    And yet I read her blog regularly, and I have never once heard her bitch about the blog that mocks the content she shares with the world, nor have I heard her demand the government start up a Don’t Be Mean To Ree Drummond On The Internet squad.

    How very odd.

    • Am I okay? No, I am not. (AKA someproblems, Extreme Fail, etc) says:

      Yes, because RD is wildly successful and has no fail to hide from.

      Julie’s ego can’t accept failure.

    • Orwell-Style CyberPolice Force says:

      Can I just say after visiting that we are such, such better haters? Grade A haters, really. What is that drivel?

      And I hate pioneer woman, too.

      • Jacy "Donk" LaRue Jacy "Donk" LaRue says:

        I am just reading it now. Some posts suck, some are moderately amusing, but yes, we are much funnier Type-A haters and shitheads, that’s for sure. Whoever it is seems overly consumed with the nutritional content of PW’s recipes — to a strange extent. I use a lot of PW recipes but, you know, you can easily avoid the ones that call for mayo, sour cream and butter. She’s no Paula Deene.

        Although, it was my man’s birthday today, and I made the PW’s Chocolate Molten Lava Cakes — and I must say, delicious! Too bad sugar is toxic and on Planet Donkey, I might be arrested at any moment!

        • Donkadooball says:

          Have you ever made her Fancy Mac? I did for my family’s Easter dinner and they are still singing it’s praises.

        • Onocentaur says:

          I don’t think that using mayo and butter is that bad for you if you don’t eat crap food in between meals and get regular exercise. I cook a lot using mayo and oil, etc., but when I visit my parents I always gain a ton of weight super fast because they keep a lot of junk food around. It’s ok to eat mayo, even full-fat mayo, if you’re not devouring a bag of Doritos every day to top it off. Even though that sounds lovely.

    • Afghani's Amazing Oyster & Champagne Shack says:

      Pioneer woman does suck. Such a fake, probably more fake than Julia. She doesn’t write any of her own posts and she’s not a simple farm girl–her husband’s family gets millions each year in government farm subsidies.

      This site is far, far better than that dumpy “hate” site, though.

      • Jacy "Donk" LaRue Jacy "Donk" LaRue says:

        Where do you get that she doesn’t write her own posts? The New Yorker piece has the guy sitting there while she’s frantically writing a post when her husband takes the kids out to give her some peace and quiet. I like her recipes, not the biggest fan of the rest of her blog, but I don’t find her to be particularly inauthentic. She just has some discretion in not sharing the shit parts of her life and who wants to read about that anyway? I go for the pretty pictures and the recipes.

        • Mini Driver, Intergalactic Bully says:

          I know that she’s farmed out the homeschooling section, at least, because she recently had a falling out with one of the women who wrote for it. I don’t have any animosity toward Ree, but I did see a parody of her site that cracked me up. Another blogger enacted Ree making one of her high-fat recipes using a Lucille Ball Barbie that was actually a pretty good likeness. I found an entry on yet a third blog discussing the parody, but not the parody itself:

          • Afghani's Amazing Oyster & Champagne Shack says:

            I’m sure she maintains some oversight, but her blog is run like a business. Good on her for being a businesswoman about it. And we can’t blame her if people are stupid and believe that PW is for real. “I’m a simple housewife who does tons of cooking! My husband is a rugged cowboy!” LOL.

            She has quite a few house servants too. Nothing wrong with it, good for her. Most of her readers just want to believe, just like people want ot believe that Martha Stewart is a really nice lady who would totally be their friend, not some cut-throat savvy businesswoman who traded stocks on insider information and lied about it to the SEC federal prosecutors. Even after that, most of her viewers don’t know or care.

          • Mini Driver, Intergalactic Bully says:

            Oh, look! It’s the “Anyone trusting enough to have faith in another human being to be truthful deserves whatever deception befalls her,” attitude, a sure sign of assholery on the internet and elsewhere. It’s much healthier to assume that everyone you encounter, virtually or otherwise, is out to exploit and dupe you.

        • Afghani's Amazing Oyster & Champagne Shack says:

          PW has a staff who does the blog. It’s not a secret, I think it’s been mentioned in other publications. Whatever she did in front of that reporter was an act.

          She tries to make it seem like she’s some normal rancher/farmer mom. She’s not. Her husband’s family is loaded thanks to subsidies. Always have been and always will be, God bless America giving subsidies to millionaire farmers but cutting funds for public education and other programs.

          • Onocentaur says:

            They’re one of the largest landowners in America; I’m sure they’d be loaded with or without the subsidies.

            Also, I don’t think PW ever presented herself as not well-off. It’s obvious from her insane unsponsored giveaways and her lodge remodel, etc.

            And frankly? Some people are rich. It is a fact of life. It is far worse, I think, to pretend you’re NOT al a Julia, who keeps on trying to pretend that her parents don’t help her out. If you’re anything higher than middle class, should you not be allowed to blog?

  46. For serious?? says:

    Pioneer Woman doesn’t write her own posts?

    Does that mean that more than one woman uses the phrase “Help me, Rhonda!”?

  47. The Cabinet of Dr. Bobby says:

    can someone explain what “Help me Rhonda” even means? I don’t get it. But I think PW’s schtick is fake as hell.

    • Afghani's Amazing Oyster & Champagne Shack says:

      It’s the title of a Beach Boys song. I don’t get it either, as it applies to PW.

    • Sweden Is A City In... Oh Wait.... says:

      Beach Boys hit from the ’60’s.

      • The Cabinet of Dr. Bobby says:

        i don’t get why she uses it as a catchphrase. do people do that? is she trying to make fetch happen amongst middle-aged women?

        • Albie Quirky says:


          She is so constantly off-key it’s cringeworthy. It’s like hearing someone’s nutty aunt do karaoke of Barry White.

      • Naansociety says:

        It was the second of their four #1 songs, and it was actually written by Al Jardine, and not Brian Wilson. Just thought I’d share…

    • for serious?? says:

      oldies song reference. She uses it when we other internet denizens use, “help!” or, more accurately, “HALP!”

      She has a schtick wherein she constantly references When Harry Met Sally and Princess Bride, too. Gets tiresome.

  48. Pink Palatian says:

    Not sure if anyone is interested, but I was bored and depressed and thought I’d have some fun…

    • Tribune 6 fka nak says:

      Do you get a cut of the revenue? If so, sure I’ll def get a coffee mug.

  49. for serious?? says:

    Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but from Pescatarian on her blerg:

    I’m so sorry for you and Jack also Julia. Thank you for being so candid about it. I know how you feel.

    Thoughts from Denmark

    Denmark? I die.

    • Albie Quirky says:

      She’s just schadenfreudey about Donkerina’s rampage through Sweden.

    • bitchface says:

      I always assumed that Pescatarian was a cat lady (and wondered why she/he/it posted to Julia’s blahgh)

    • Tribune 6 fka nak says:

      Speaking of her blerg comments, one of you rascals must have left this gem:

      You are hot, successful and dynamic. I thought you had a match with
      Jack, but it wasn’t meant to be. You need someone who worships you, and
      will adapt to your chosen lifestyle, which means someone who can support
      you as a media personality with a multi-city base which means constant
      travel. I wish you the best with your romantic life, because your
      professional career is definitely in the right direction.
      All the best from sunny Brazil!”

    • Pescachickenarian says:

      You rang?
      Not me. How many pescatarians are there?

  50. conspiracy theorist says:

    Rumor time: could Simply Curiouser be our one time male NS contributor? When the Szish is away….

    • peltvest says:

      well they sure were acting like they were at the chatty, early part of a coke-binge sooo….

  51. bitchface says:

    oh the comments are just sickeningly gross… I hope those are not real people

    • Tribune 6 says:

      What?!?! You mean you don’t agree with the brazilian, who claims she needs a man who worships her (raft ass) and will adapt to her multi-city (multi-med) life because her career is definitely going in the right direction (towards traveling out-calls)?

      Oh, I get it. You weren’t impressed with Momsers’ effort in the post. Me neither.

      Dammint Momsers, row! Row, Momsers, row!!!

  52. Tribune 6 says:

    She tweets, but still NO mention of the break-up.

    I hate to say it again, but when will she tweet the break-up? Hmmm…..

    • juliaspublicist cried his rhinestone off juliaspublicist says:

      Um. . . mother’s day was yesterday

      • --EVER-- says:

        and it’s the ultimate tweet-that-should’ve-been-a-text:

        “Happy Mother’s Day to my very special Mom.”

        The whole point of this tweet is obvs. to point out that she’s not really tweeting! Easing off, bunnies! And notice that grim period at the end where an exclamation mark belongs? Is she okay? No, she is not okay, and she would like you to notice!!

        • We were here first. says:

          Wow, seriously? If a motherfucking tweet was her only communication to her mother on mother’s day, I hope she *does* fucking kill herself. Touche.

        • cupcake cray cray says:

          yes, her mother is so very special to her that she opted to stay in san diego, having break up sex with her boyfriend and hanging out with his mom, instead of going home to spend it with her own mother…the mother who, one week prior, got up at 3 am to watch the royal wedding with her psycho daughter, and baked her special gluten-free brownies.

          she’s such a good daughter.

  53. mcakes is tots nots guamanic depressive says:

    In response to all the catladiez (and men) who are struggling with this world and this economy, I hope for the best for all of you every day. My life is a little tumultuous right now, too (teacher, laid off for the third time in four years), and the state of this country and planet worry and depress me. Regardless, I am fortunate for what I have, and I know that.

    I can’t speak for everyone here, but I know that while what I have may not be much, in a lot of ways I am ‘so blessed.’ I have a roof over my head, great friends, a family who cares about me, and a boyfriend who loves me even though I’m not perfect.

    I wasn’t born with a silver spoon — far from it. I regularly send money to that aforementioned family that cares about me, because for the time being I have it to give and they often can’t get by. I worked for my education, I work for the roof over my head, and I work emotionally to maintain my great friendships and my relationship with that boyfriend who loves me.

    Julia Allison Baugher bothers me for a lot of reasons. Hearing the stories of honest to god hardship I read about here, from hardworking people with good hearts who are put in terrible situations through no fault of their own, one of the things that increasingly bothers me is her entitlement.

    She doesn’t know what it is like to wonder if she will have a roof over her head. She doesn’t really wonder how she will pay her bills. She doesn’t wonder if she will have to take care of her parents, or anyone for that matter, least of all herself. She has been given every opportunity, but sits up there in her sad little party hat, throwing her pity party, continually indulging herself on the fortune she has been handed and crying about how it isn’t enough. She is Veruca Salt, and her golden egg is a big white dress, a rich husband, and absolute adoration attached to fame.

    It is out of empathy for every person in this world with genuine struggles — including the disadvantaged, impoverished, hungry, broken-homed or outright homeless students I teach every day, or the people who have recently endured real crisis in Japan, Australia, or the American South — that I feel sickened and outraged at her antics.

    She takes, and takes, and takes, and cries ‘poor me’ about how broken and terrible her stress is. She has never really given or worked for anything in her life, yet laments her eternal struggles and sufferings. All while begging for an audience, and then screaming ‘bully’ when her largest audience mocks her privileged and deluded lifestyle and her relentless publication of her idiocy.

    Is she a sick woman? Yes. However she is sick in an ugly, twisted fashion that has harmfully impacted many lives and which will never actually touch her with any true hardship. She is sick in a way that makes a mockery of genuine suffering and fear. At the least she diminishes the honest suffering of the non-privileged, at the worst she makes life harder for those same people with her trivializations, bullshit campaigning, and flawed rhetoric that feeds into the same systems that create the real struggles of our society (such as her convenient Republicanism, ambivalent political affiliation, made-up health crises, gay stereotyping, poor bashing, anti food stamp positioning, false victimhood, wedding fluffing, financial whining, celebrity jocking, body-image snarking, pseudo-feminism, etc. ad infinitum.)

    She is a disgusting display of so much that is wrong with this world, and sick or not, if she continues to crusade to gain an audience from it, she needs to take what she gets. Sometimes what she gets is a mouthful of people who refuse to sit back and let her whine, and pat her hand, and tell her it’s okay for her to be a vapid, disgusting, harmful cunt. Sometimes what she gets is a community of intelligent, funny, bitterly witty basement-dwellers who are going to rip her back-peddling, self-aggrandizing, faux-martyrdom to shreds, and then dance on the pieces.

    If Julia Allison Baugher has anything has anything to be proud of after her dismal career of silver-spoon lapping and celebrity seeking, it should be that she has brought together one of the most profoundly articulate and intelligent group of misanthropes on the internet, for her unending shame brings about our greatest moments.

    To be quite honest, if I had to reckon with that, maybe I’d want to kill myself, too.

    • Prof. F Camping, Doctor of Donkology says:

      *two thumbs up*

    • Again, Feel Free To Relax says:


      Love ya, girl

    • CurlingIronsAtDawn says:

      Thank you for that. It’s nice to be reminded once in awhile, especially in witty, eloquent terms, that despite the massive amount of suffering in the country right now that good people are still struggling to be kind and generous and preserve what goodness we still have out there. This is also what seems to draw so many of us together because this overgrown child woman represents much of what is wrong with what we encounter in our every day lives. It seems right, if even for a little while in a far flung corner of the interweb, to shift the spotlight from the raging narcissist to the quiet reality of human decency that gives from its own need and does what seems right even if it puts one at a disadvantage. This site is my personal storming of the bastille, even if it rebuilds its walls back up in the morning.

    • Admiral of the Burro Fleet says:

      Just got back from having this comment woven into a tapestry I’m going to hang on the walls of my chilly basement to cut the drafts!

    • O_o says:

      Wow. You are giving Julia Allison far too much credit.

    • Handbag Stuffed With Hair says:

      Tremendously good, and thank you for writing it.

    • Julie= Grifter says:

      that was so well stated, thank you for articulating what I feel

    • ks says:

      This is why you’ll make such an excellent host for our national get together! Maybe we need to have it before she brings her slime trail to the bay area.

      Time to tent the ol’ fingers and start planning.

  54. Tribune 6 says:

    You know what, I really appreciate that story, particularly about you helping your family. God bless you for your strength and courage. May He give you more.

    Also, I have no idea what a ‘misanthrope’ is. Can someone tweet that for me?

    • mcakes is tots nots guamanic depressive says:

      I am guessing this was directed at me? I’m not sure, due to the placement. If it was, truly, I do not need more. I wasn’t really joking when I said ‘so blessed,’ and I wasn’t trying to throw a hero-party for myself for trying to take care of my family as they have taken care of me. I am fortunate to have what I have, and it is the perfect amount for me (okay, I won’t lie, I really want a dog!)

      Perhaps it is because I work for what I have that I can appreciate what I’ve got. If Julia had any idea what an honest day’s work was, what it really means to earn satisfaction out of life, or to really feel the burn of striving to survive when there is nothing to fall back on, then she wouldn’t feel the need to cry about her self-indulgent sugar addiction, the break down of a two-week old relationshit, or the days that are mounting up past her self-prescribed expiration date.

      It’s kind of like that Twilight Zone “A Nice Place to Visit,” where the guy dies and that finds that everything he desires is given to him. Eventually, bored at the ease, he begins to resent it, and says he doesn’t belong in heaven, he belongs in the other place. His guardian tells him, “Heaven, Mr. Valentine? Whatever gave you the idea that you were in Heaven? This IS ‘the other place!'”

      • Tribune 6 says:

        It was directed at you, as a comment of sincerity and goodwill. Point taken.

      • Albie Quirky says:

        Very good point about Donkerina–she’s got 99 problems and she’s 98.5 of them herself.

        I hope things look up for you on the employment and financial fronts!

  55. Shamoo£ia says:

    Did anyone catch this comment from her in her all out pity party comment fest?

    “What Jack wants for his career is an intensive, difficult path that would make it almost impossible / incredibly difficult to have a family in the next 5 years – and I really want that … if I were 25, trust me, I would never, ever give him up. I would wait it out. But I’m 30, and I don’t have that kind of time.”

    Jesus woman!! What is this obsession with a measly 5 year age difference??

    Your eggs don’t expire on your 30th birthday! Plenty of woman get pregnant after age 35, even age 40. Of course, the chance of genetic defects goes up and I guess our pretty pretty princess wouldn’t want the possibility of, say, a DS baby ruining her storybook pink baby princess tutu photo shoot a la Kelle Hampton.

    • Onocentaur says:

      you do lose out on fertility after 35. I took it to mean that Julia wants kids before she’s 35, and honestly I think that’s pretty reasonable.

      • Shamoo£ia says:

        Sure, that’s reasonable, but from the way she’s talking, it’s like she needs to get married and pregnant NOW. “I don’t have that kind of time” is a bit melodramatic! She knew the age difference and his military commitment going in – why is she suddenly shocked and heartbroken that he doesn’t want to/ can’t settle down and get married RIGHT NOW?

        If she really loved this guy as much as her OMG SO DRAMATIC post indicates, she would find a way to make it work. I think she got dumped and is feeling a bit down since it seems like all of her present and former “sisters” are getting married and having babies.

      • Albie Quirky says:

        The thing is that you have to balance the decrease in fertility odds with the importance of being in a healthy relationship with someone who is going to be a good parent. If you’re not ready to do that before you’re 35, rushing into something fucked up because your bioclock is ticking doesn’t help anyone.

      • ks says:

        I find it pretty amusing that her most famous soundbite is that women over 30 are expired yet now that she is over 30 it just started to dawn on her that she falls under this self-made umbrella.

        Having a panicked Donkey running around frantically trying to get pregnant because she wants to be like her friends is one of the main things i hate about parents and people who insist on bringing more hungry mouths into the world for their own selfish purposes. I don’t think I could watch the Donkey show anymore if she got pregnant. The tweets would be unbearable.

    • Shamoo£ia says:

      Also… this. Is she implying she had breakup sex. Whoops! “Accidental” pregnancy alert!

      “But we’ve spent the weekend together, just hanging out and enjoying one another, and well … it’s hard not to be like “Ugh! Let’s not do this whole “break up” thing! Let’s just keep trying! We can work this out! Who cares about logic!?!?” Yeah. And that’s how you end up making bad decisions …”

      • someproblems says:

        She just can’t give up being a total creep.

      • Worrisome Pelts, PhDonk says:

        That would be so horrible for the kid, but the idea of her finding out how much of a shit the Navy gives about her pregnancy/birth is really funny.

        “What do you mean you still have to deploy?! Can’t you see I’m GLOWING? FINE! But I expect you to start your paternity leave at east a MONTH before my due date! WHAT? No paternity leave?! Who will take all the videos for my Yummy Mummy Having Sex and the City blog?! Is Yimmy available?! Where are my pink chocolate YSL smelling salts?!”

        Welcome to single parenting, Julie!

    • nioniel says:

      I kinda thought the same thing. Yes, risks go up after 40, but there are many, many women choosing to wait until that stage of their lives to start a family and I’m just not buying the “impossible/incredibly difficult” if this is something they BOTH want (as Julia pointed out herself, Jack was ready for a serious relationship about 4 weeks ago). Again… she’s making up rationalizations that make her sound like the tragic heroine in an epic love story that just wasn’t meant to be. *gag* I admit, I’m completely ignorant about the military – I don’t know what his career obligations might entail, but would any reasonable scenario make having a committed relationship and starting a family “impossible”? None of this makes sense.
      Also… how awkward is it that she hung around for the weekend after breaking up? Have the grace and dignity to withdraw from his family event, gather your things and your dog, give Jack a hug and call a cab to go the airport, for cryin’ out loud. I’m embarrassed for her. I really am.

      • Worrisome Pelts, PhDonk says:

        She thinks she’s like a member of the family. Everyone would be so heartbroken to miss seeing her! Girlfriend (sorry! Ex-girlfriend!) doesn’t realize she’s just one in a series of S.O.s to Cindy’s kids to sail in and out of the McCain family’s lives. She didn’t even last 6 months. Senora Cindy probably only saw her 3-4 times, but Julia will spend the rest of her tragic life acting like they were thisclose.

        Seriously, Julia, a little dignity would go a long way here.

      • Albie Quirky says:

        The thing is that it’s not like a game of musical chairs, where when your bioclock goes “ding” you just settle for whoever you happen to be standing next to. That’s one of the best ways to have really, truly fucked up kids.

    • Tribune Slingbacks says:

      You’re all assuming that she wants a kid for the sake of having a kid, and not as a tool to land a rich man (or at least a rich man’s money).

      • Albie Quirky says:

        Rich men tend not to be so susceptible to the shotgun wedding thing. Though what with Pancakes being the heir apparent to the loony right throne o’ WALNUTS! he might be more susceptible than most.

  56. F. Scott Bitchgerald says:

    Ashram, the help?

  57. Six finger bride says:

    If she were smart, she would find a way to monetize this site. I mean how many characters out there create a forum for so much interesting and insightful comments about a lot of things, not just her. For instance the sugar thread….. and there are “myriad” other examples….just my two pennies…

  58. ks says:


    Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not. Education will not. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent.
    Calvin Coolidge

    Wow, 6 posts since October 2010. You really ARE persistent!@

    * I don’t know if she actually smokes crack. She just looks like it.

    • Prof. F Camping, Doctor of Donkology says:

      couple that with her latest tweet, and i think the only persistence she’s interested in is starving herself.

      @BPCleanse – 5 Days of Discipline = Self Love! Thx for creating THE 1&only CLEANSE. Truly Inspiring!!! X

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